Michele Bachmann, tax attorney... for the IRS

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The other night I was live tweeting the GOP debacle debate, and I was bombarded by nasty, and mostly stupid, tweets by right wing nut jobs who found it somehow cathartic to call me a "libtard".  I reminded them that their BFF Sarah Palin wouldn't appreciate that term, but that doesn't matter now.

What does matter is that they crowed about how their newest BFF, Michele Bachmann, is highly intelligent. Why? Because, you silly "libtards", she was a professional tax attorney! She went to school for that, you know.

Hey, I can admit that sometimes tea baggers can be correct, just as a stopped clock is twice a day.

However.

Did these ardent Bachmann groupies check into who she represented? Wiki:

From 1988 to 1993, Bachmann was an attorney representing the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

She left her position with the IRS to become a full-time mother.

This is not news. Oh, and she left for personal reasons, not moral ones.  Wiki:

The IRS is responsible for collecting taxes and the interpretation and enforcement of the Internal Revenue Code.

Here's another take:

Bachmann was a tax collection attorney for the IRS - a repo-gal. One of the big tax scoflaws Bachmann went after was Marvin Manypenny, an American Indian student who worked for a nonprofit and made less than $10,000.

So much for the little guy.

And what about all those Bachmann brains her Twitter followers were frothing so proudly about? Most of us already understand that, just as graduating from Ivy League schools is not necessarily an indication of intelligence, getting a law degree does not automatically make one the smartest one in the room. FYI:

In 1986 she received a J.D. degree from Oral Roberts University, followed by an LL.M. degree in tax law from the William & Mary Law School in 1988.[13][14] She was a member of the final graduating class of the Oral Roberts University law school, and was part of a group of faculty, staff, and students who moved the ORU law school library to what is now Regent University.[15]

I poked around, and it was entertaining to discover how many questions there are about her legal education.  But the point is not to be entertained, it is to be informed.

If only more American voters were more informed, we'd have less reason to feel compelled to provide information about Michele Bachmann, and about the (remote) possibility of someone like her one day residing in the White House. The sad reality is, the GOP is doing everything they can to make high quality public education and a truly "fair and balanced" press a thing of the past.

And so we are stuck with (and dumbstruck by) enthusiastic ClusterFox watchers inspired by presidential hopefuls like Michele Bachmann going out of their way to call many of us "libtards".

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  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    @91c620f809615e4573e1e8f393d74cc8:disqus - you're confusing the JD and the LLM degrees.
    That's understandable, to non-lawyers. The JD is highly competitive; class rank is important; the very best get onto Law Review and the road to wealth.
    The LLM is not very competitive. Class rank is not important to its graduates - you're already a lawyer and already have your JD class rank for employees to examine (BTW where did Bachmann stand in her class - she couldn't have made Law Review or we would have heard of it.) After getting her LLM, did Bachmann go to a large profitable firm ... or did she get a second- or third-tier government job? That's a perfectly honorable choice ... public service is important ... but it's kind of ironic that she's such a hater of the federal government.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    I think W&M had a program involving tax law at the time Bachmann was there; I don't know its exact name but it's not inaccurate to say her advanced degree was "in" tax law. However, it's not a badge of intelligence; advanced degrees in law are just not very competitive because the big money is in staying OUT of those programs and getting IN to The Firm.  Bachmann's ending up at the IRS was not a ticket to big money, which means either she just wasn't that good academically or ... possibly ... she really wanted to do a good job as a tax collector. It's perfectly honorable to have that as your ambition ... our nation NEEDS skillful public servants ... but it contradicts every word that comes out of her mouth.

  • http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/ GottaLaff

    Good to know!

  • http://www.facebook.com/rewinn Randall E. Winn

    LLMs programs are not about being smart; they're about paying tuition. JD programs are competitive because class rank makes a difference in getting your first job, but LLM programs not - your rank in the program doesn't really matter, you're not competing to get into The Firm or on Law Review. Anyone who can get a JD can go on and get an LLM if they really want to work for the  IRS, but it's not exactly an elite degree.

  • Bobson

    So was Matthew a tax collector!!

  • http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/ GottaLaff

    You can tell by the EatsWithUtensil's lack of observation skills that he or she failed to notice that the person who wrote this is a "herself" (my picture/name is displayed prominently in the right sidebar), and a proud Kenyan Marxist Commie hippie French socialist liberal progressive who is more than willing to pay taxes, and always has.

    As for the tea bagging Bachmann, she chose to look for employment and take that job, knowing exactly for whom she would be working.

    Here's what's better about life in the U.S. since Obama has been president: People like you are being exposed for what they are, Instituted enforcements for equal pay for women (Lilly Ledbetter Bill), ended DADT, etc.

    Go here for the list: http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2010/10/president-obamas-244-accomplishments-part-4/

    Next.

  • EatsWithUtensils

    You can tell by the stereotyical derogatory terms "Tea Baggers", "neocons", and "ClusterFox" that this article is written by your typical left-wing nut job who probably pays no taxes himself.  I doubt as an employee of the IRS that she had any discretion as to the cases she was given to pursue despite her personal feelings about supporting the plight of many Native Americans.   As for questions about her education, all of America has abundant unanswered questions about Oblabla's education, all sealed from inspection, and look where all that supposed Ivy League education has gotten us.  After nearly three years, tell me, What is better about life in the US since that idealogue became installed by the liberal media's con of the American Voter.  Name one thing!   Some people will take longer to wake up than others.    Sadly, some will never get it.  Is that you?

  • EatsWithUtensils

    You can tell by the stereotyical derogatory terms "Tea Baggers", "neocons", and "ClusterFox" that this article is written by your typical left-wing nut job who probably pays no taxes himself.  I doubt as an employee of the IRS that she had any discretion as to the cases she was given to pursue despite her personal feelings about supporting the plight of many Native Americans.   As for questions about her education, all of America has abundant unanswered questions about Oblabla's education, all sealed from inspection, and look where all that supposed Ivy League education has gotten us.  After nearly three years, tell me, What is better about life in the US since that idealogue became installed by the liberal media's con of the American Voter.  Name one thing!   Some people will take longer to wake up than others.    Sadly, some will never get it.  Is that you?

  • EatsWithUtensils

    You can tell by the stereotyical derogatory terms "Tea Baggers", "neocons", and "ClusterFox" that this article is written by your typical left-wing nut job who probably pays no taxes himself.  I doubt as an employee of the IRS that she had any discretion as to the cases she was given to pursue despite her personal feelings about supporting the plight of many Native Americans.   As for questions about her education, all of America has abundant unanswered questions about Oblabla's education, all sealed from inspection, and look where all that supposed Ivy League education has gotten us.  After nearly three years, tell me, What is better about life in the US since that idealogue became installed by the liberal media's con of the American Voter.  Name one thing!   Some people will take longer to wake up than others.    Sadly, some will never get it.  Is that you?

  • Anonymous

    Yes, it's all "political theatre," arrogance and vanity gone mad adn our citizens really do need to shut down the TV's, PS3, Wii Game consoles and gether theit head's around where there country is going - "Basically, to the dumps. Thos we've shipped off (elected) to Washington have taken the jauntlet as a $200, 000.00 all expense paid jaunt in the "happy room." Why? Simly becasue nobody cares to mind the store... people are convinced that their only duty is to "vote" and afterwards everything will be taken care of. Really! So much for utopia, It must be that the positions or jobs most have come without supervisors... a true break from what I experienced. I cannot imagine any position or job I've ever held where I could virtually do what I wanted when I wanted. Get real, you turn a congressperson loose with a $200, 000. salary, all expenses pair, a allowance for a second home and three to five offices adn what you get in return is an individual who represents themselves. All because nobody in the district thinks to give instructions adn monitor what their elected representative is doing or has done. Strange, becasue ther are a lot of people complaining of the difficulties they're confronting. Blame yourself, it could have been different had you paid attention!

  • Se72748

    Sorry I do not belive for one second that she raised 21 foster kids.I imagine she may have kept some over night an perhaps others for weeks or months,for which she was paid.Now it comes out that she worked for the hated IRS..My .My.My.Now isn't that something.What other lies and  half truths will come out as the parade marches on?

  • Dragun

    As opposed to all the vetting of Obama of course..................

  • Captainrick

    It is now called Regents school of Law and which was part of Pat Robertson's "university" in Virginia

  • Captainrick

    Except that William and Mary does not and has never offered and LLM in tax law.

  • Donleo

    Congresswoman Michele Bachmann received a Master of Laws Degree in Tax Law from William and Mary Law School.  The last time I checked, William and Mary was one of the finest law schools in the country.

  • J P Hayesjr

    IRS's attorneys who appear in Tax Court before magistrates must be attorneys who posess a JD from an accredited college of law, have passed the state bar exam in the jurisdiction (s) in which they practice, and are registered with the appropriate state and county bars where they practice. If they work as researchers or writers on REgulation projects, or if they provide internal counsel but do not practice before a magistrate, then they don't have to be all of the above. Michelle seems to have practices, so what gives? I guess some animals are more equal on this farm than others. Were her Norwegian ancestors fans of Quisling, or the German American Bund, by the way? Her role model principally seems to be Gudrun Burwitz!

  • J P Hayesjr

    Anybody care to present the evidence and casue the Wikipedia organization to give the public the truth amd correct the Wikipedia listing for her which explicitly proclaims that she graduated from ORU's Law School with a JD, helped move the law library of her alma mater to "Regent's University," which is a part of William and Mary, blah blah blah...?

  • J P Hayesjr

    Was Michelle one of the IRS Attorneys whose name came up regularly in the hearings into IRS chaired by the Late Senator William Roth? Hmmm, there was a case in which she was chasing a Native American who earned less that $10,000 per year....where there's smoke, there no doubt is fire, and Mr. Roth certainly pulled no punches regarding the unevenness of IRS treatement of low wage earners versus the wealthy, who rarely received the full weight of their sanctions, per capita. Perhaps he had some words with her back then?

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_P7CRPW6PGW6JB5PXTD2GOG2P3I SteveD

    oh dear God. Oral Roberts? Are they even ABA-approved? Seriously, I've been looking at law schools and I've pretty much read through the list of what Princeton thinks are the top 174, as well as U.S. News' list, and I don't remember seeing Oral Roberts in there. Are they one of those places that let students take the "baby bar" in California, or something?

  • http://twitter.com/HryPop HryPop

    William and Mary does NOT now and never has offered an LL.M Degree in Tax Law.  I suspect it more factual that she was involved in some capacity with Regent University before it was an accredited law school and William and Mary may have had some oversite in the Regent program.

    How do those tea baggers state it of you have nothing to hide show us your diploma.

  • http://twitter.com/BoomerJack Jack M. Boardman

    I DID miss this one! I know a number of people living in Mn6 who actually did NOT vote for her.

  • http://pulse.yahoo.com/_R4C5XHQDMQAOTRGEGJ64HZ7WGY Bo

    Hmmm... an IRS "tax collection attorney" is a staff position requiring a degree, generally NOT requiring her being able to pass the state Bar exam - that's a BIG difference!
    The late Oral Roberts and Regent U are basically evangelical schools, and as we saw with Monica Goodling packing their grads into the DoJ, intellect is not deciding factor.
    Bachmann was at IRS for the Reagan years, and likely saw the writing on the wall when Clinton was elected - if only Obama had some stones and cleaned house of the moles packed in by the neocons!
    What's wrong with that boy?
    When is the Bush Crime Family going to be held accountable so we can move onward and upward?

  • Anon

    Have you read the bit about when she was in her state legilature and on a vendetta against gays she hid in the bushes to spy on a gay pride rally, or the time when she held a meeting  and two ladies (one a tiny former nun) could not get to ask her a question and when she went to the ladies room they decided to ask her - she responded by screaming at the top of her voice and calling the police, telling them she had been accosted!
    This lady is seriously crazy!

  • http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/ GottaLaff

    Great point, Weenie Head!

  • http://twitter.com/techweenie techweenie

    Not sure how it's not impressive that president Obama got a Harvard law degree and president of the Harvard Law Review and is considered "lucky" and "uneducated" by the RWNJs and Bachmann, a graduate of Oral Roberts University law school who worked for the IRS is considered "brilliant" and "knowledgeable." 

  • Walt

    Nice investigative work, Laffy.  Yeah it most certainly smells.  Whatever formal education Bachmann received (which according to her statements, didn't include a whole lot of history),  she still remains ignorant to "matters of the heart."  Just another right wing phony... or sociopath.  She's perfect for "Idiot America." 

  • http://twitter.com/PirateWench Pirate Wench

    As a tax lawyer for the IRS, she probably KNEW that the $30 a day PER CHILD she got for "fostering" them, was all tax free. Yay for getting rich from the government! And also now I guess we know why she is so anti-abortion, if abortion had been used, all that money FROM THE US CITIZENS would have been put to some OTHER use, you know, like FEEDING POOR.

  • http://thepoliticalcarnival.net/ GottaLaff

    : ) That was sweet, thanks.

  • http://twitter.com/TyJuanOn Lonnie

    Booyah!! Wtg Laffy....right in the gut. They won't understand it but awesome any way.