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Poll-itics: Hillary could win Texas in 2016, but support for secession has increased

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PPP has some interesting little tidbits in their new poll. One that stood out was that more Democrats than Republicans support an election-rigging scheme to allocate electoral voters by Congressional District instead of giving them to the statewide winner, by a margin of 28% to 25%.

but wait there's more

Public Policy Polling:

PPP’s newest Texas poll finds that, at least for now, Hillary Clinton could win the state in 2016… she would have a decent chance of winning Kentucky if she makes another White House bid. [...]

Support for secession in the state has increased since President Obama’s reelection. 20% of voters say they’d like to leave the country to 67% who support staying in the union. That’s up from 14% who wanted to secede when we polled on the issue in September of 2011. 35% of Republicans support exiting.

So Texas voters could very well support Hillary Clinton, a Democrat, in 2016 while simultaneously warming to the idea of seceding from the rest of us.

Solution: Allow that 20% of anti-Obama Texans to strand themselves on an island somewhere, while the sane ones vote Hillary into office. See? Bipartisan solutions aren’t that hard to find.

Doonesbury: Texas seceding “dramatically improves the gene pool!”

Come on Texans, this is only a comic strip. It’s satire. Garry Trudeau pokes fun at all of us at one time or another, so smile! If it makes you think, then he’s done his job well.

Doonesbury– “Secdee”? Pfft! New petition: Expel Texas from the union!

Garry Trudeau may very well be on to something.

Doonesbury: “Texas is seceding?”

I hope Garry Trudeau sticks with the secession story arc and takes a couple of shots at moments like this:

Obama won, so (on 3) blame ACORN! 49% of Republicans still do, even though it no longer exists.

Public Policy Polling has some pretty pathetic survey results to report. Sulky Republicans just can’t bring themselves to accept reality. Okay, that’s nothing new. And they continue to believe that ACORN exists! Oh, wait. That’s nothing new either… but it’s still pretty pathetic:

PPP’s first post election national poll finds that Republicans are taking the results pretty hard…and also declining in numbers.

49% of GOP voters nationally say they think that ACORN stole the election for President Obama. We found that 52% of Republicans thought that ACORN stole the 2008 election for Obama, so this is a modest decline, but perhaps smaller than might have been expected given that ACORN doesn’t exist anymore.

Some GOP voters are so unhappy with the outcome that they no longer care to be a part of the United States. 25% of Republicans say they would like their state to secede from the union compared to 56% who want to stay and 19% who aren’t sure.

Before it disbanded, ACORN was demonized by Republicans, but as you may recall, they were cleared of all wrongdoing.

Yes, ACORN was proved innocent of any illegality in the “pimp” affair, a federal judge declared defunding ACORN unconstitutional, and the Congressional Research Service found no evidence of voter fraud.

Clear? Not to the GOP. Then again, they think secession is an option. Let’s not tell ‘em who guards their borders, protects them, provides health care options, fresh water, their beloved military, disaster relief, etc. That will be our little secret.

The good news? There’s been a 5 point increase in Democratic identification as compared to a 5 point decrease in Republican identification since the election.

It gets better: ” Grover Norquist is largely unknown nationally, and among voters who are familiar with him he is generally disliked.” Gee, I can’t imagine why.

Oh, and President Obama’s approvals have gone up. Again.

Details here.

La Cucaracha: ‘Tis the treason for right wing “logic”

A major advantage of having a Twitter pal like the wonderful Lalo Alcaraz (@LaloAlcaraz) is that he generously shares his work with us.

Here’s today’s La Cucaracha:

Texas Wants To Secede Union, Gov Perry Not So Much

Looks like Texas wants it mostest.

Just a week after President Barack Obama was re-elected, a petition by Texans for the right to secede from the rest of the country has garnered some 64,000 signatures, many more than the 25,000 signature threshold needed to get a response from the Obama administration.

The petition was made on the government’s “We the People” petitioning web site, along with secession petitions from at least 18 other states.

The Texas petition to “peacefully” secede has gained by far the most traction of any state, citing “economic difficulties” related to the actions of the federal government in Texas, and “blatant abuses” of Texans’ rights by the National Defense Authorization Act and Transportation Security Administration.

But it’s hard to run for President again in 2016 if you’ve also pumped up secession.

(CNN) – An appeal calling on the federal government to allow Texas to “withdraw from the United States of America” following President Barack Obama’s re-election doesn’t have the support of the Lone Star State’s governor, his office said in a statement Tuesday.

“Gov. [Rick] Perry believes in the greatness of our Union and nothing should be done to change it,” his press secretary Catherine Frazier wrote in a statement to the Dallas Morning News. “But he also shares the frustrations many Americans have with our federal government.”