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"Gun advocates think they know how any scenario involving guns will play out. They don't."

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In one of the following letters, the author refers to "gun advocates." I prefer the terms gun fondlers, gun zealots, and gun fetishists, but what do I know, right? She makes a great point, as do the others in today's Los Angles Times letters to the editor.

Take a look at these and at the video below, because our voices matter:

Near the end of your article on the Las Vegas shootings, you mention Joseph Robert Wilcox, who pulled out a concealed weapon and confronted Jerad Miller at the Wal-Mart.

As I read this part of the article, I wondered what gun advocates who promote the fallacy that the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun would say about that. Wilcox may have believed this idea and might have wanted to be a hero, but now he is dead after having been shot by a bad guy.

Gun advocates think they know how any scenario involving guns will play out. They don't.

Unfortunately, this part of the story will not even be part of the conversation. It is to our country's detriment that it won't be.

Nancy Zaman, Los Angeles

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The politicians' angry cries against the release of five Guantanamo Bay detainees are loud. What of the American terrorists who routinely slaughter children, police officers and innocent civilians?

Those politicians refuse to defy their sponsor, the National Rifle Assn., and show little care for American lives.

Ruth Palanker, Los Angeles

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Isn't it about time that we just stand up to the defenders of an amendment written more than 200 years ago and say it just doesn't apply anymore? Isn't it time for the cowards in Washington to quit protecting the NRA and start protecting the rest of us?

It's time we closed the gun shops and the gun shows and started restricting and shutting down the manufacturers of these weapons.

And yes, it is a mental health issue. It's about the absolute insanity of the people who think that owning a gun somehow makes you more of an American.

Collect the guns and get these nuts off the street before more of our children die.

Lee Cohen, Glendale

Now take a look at our own Cliff Schecter making the case against violence on The Last Word. As always, he knocked it out of the park:

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Student killed. Just "another week in the United States of the NRA."

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While I was on air with Nicole Sandler today, this terrible news broke: Student killed, shooter also dead, at Oregon high school. Shortly after that, I received a press release from Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, in part (emphasis mine):

"We hear our representatives calling for prayers, but today, we call on responsible gun owners, mothers, fathers, and all concerned citizens to call on our elected officials to pass reasonable reforms that will prevent gun violence. Will we have to wait until there is an active shooter at every school in America before our lawmakers act?" said Sarah Finger McDonald, Oregon Chapter Leader for Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. "Today’s shooting was the 74th since Newtown. Our children and teachers should be learning and teaching in schools—not on lock down, cowering under desks, and evacuated from school with their hands raised in the air.”

Here at TPC, we can barely keep up with the epidemic of NRA-sponsored carnage, but we've tried:

These stories make a few things very clear. For example, in one case, no gun was needed to tackle a shooter and disarm him. In another case, a "good guy with a gun" was killed by "a bad guy with a gun." So much for that right wing gun-fondler talking point.

Referring to Second Amendmenters as "good guys," framing it in such unrealistic, black-and-white terms, is misleading at best. This isn't a 1950s Roy Rogers movie, it's real life. And right now, reality sucks.

Our own Cliff Schecter was on the Ronan Farrow show today recapping the series of horrific events. He spoke with his usual brilliantly blunt eloquence:

Cliff was asked on because of the latest "student killed" headline. And because that "student killed" headline has become so damned commonplace. What has this country become? As Cliff said, it's not the same place in which he grew up. Ditto.

And with that, here are today's Los Angeles Times letters to the editor, because our voices matter:

With more states allowing citizens to openly carry weapons into stores, libraries and churches; with the National Rifle Assn. convincing others that the best antidote to gun violence is more guns; and with people entertaining themselves watching movies and TV shows full of gratuitous violence, do we really need to ask, "What precipitated this event?"

Just look in the mirror.

Matt Giorgi

Brea

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Dateline, Mission Viejo: A son kills his father, mother, sister and himself with a gun.

Dateline, Atlanta: A gunman trying to charge into a courthouse with an assault rifle and grenades is subdued after a gun battle with police.

Dateline, Seattle: A gunman kills one person before being subdued.

Dateline, Las Vegas: Two police officers are assassinated by two shooters who also kill a shopper and themselves.

Another week in the United States of the NRA, where that phrase "not one more" is just another bumper sticker.

So, folks, enjoy your next trip to the mall or sending your kids off to school. What could possibly go wrong?

Frank Ferrone

El Cajon

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Two armed individuals walk into a restaurant carrying loaded weapons because they are exercising their 2nd Amendment rights.

Two armed individuals walk into a restaurant and kill two police officers.

Question: How does anyone know which two individuals just walked in until they start firing?

Terry Sternberg

Woodland Hills

And to drive home a few very serious points, here is a tongue-in-cheek video courtesy of CollegeHumor's Favorite Funny Videos:

H/t: The wonderful Gaius Publius of AMERICAblog

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What Do You Get When You Mix a Psychiatrist, Fox News & A H.S. Shooting

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Sounds like a set-up for a joke, doesn't it? Sadly, this is true.

Fox news must have their resident psychos on call. I know that major newspapers write obituaries before celebrities pass so they can go to press immediately upon hearing the tragic news.

Now there's been another school shooting, this time in Oregon. A student killed. A school coach wounded. The shooter dead (self-inflicted gunshot).

So who does Fox News call upon? Resident psychiatrist and Medical A-Team member Dr. Keith Ablow.

It didn't take 15 minutes before Fox already had the gun-promoting, NRA sponsored psychiatrist come on the air and fire a warning salvo that this shooting is going to motivate anti-gun nuts" (his professional phrase, not mine) to come out in droves and demand gun control.

How many killings is it going to take for these NRA crackpots to finally get the message they, or their families, could be next if unbridled gun ownership continues?

This man is supposed to be a psychological expert. I think Fox News got the psycho part right. Check it out:

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Reckless Cops Visit School And Cause Student Shootings

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Okay, how  many times do the police have to be told not to leave their fully-loaded weapons where someone could get to them? Then ask yourself how irresponsible is it for them to leave those weapons unattended near kids -- at a school? Hello. anybody home?

An 11-year-old told KCAL-TV that police officers were playing four square with students about 11:40 a.m. Wednesday and handing out stickers when one student wandered over to a police motorcycle that had a gun latched to it.

The event was part of “Red Ribbon Week,” which is intended to promote awareness about illegal drug use.

Maybe it should have been about gun safety instead.

What is wrong with the negligent officers? More than you might think. Read on from Real Story.

Chino police said the weapon was initially identified in reports as a handgun, but officers confirmed the firearm was an AR-15 rifle.

Okay, stop there. The police don't know the difference between a handgun and an AR-15? That's reassuring. So, when they got to the bottom of that, these trusty officers revealed:

They said the gun was discharged but never removed from its locked mountain device.

Now I'm going to venture a guess and say that statement has a typo. I think they probably meant the AR-15 was in a locked mounted device. But either way, it obviously wasn't that well locked that an elementary school kid couldn't get it to go off, ultimately causing multiple student injuries and hospitalizations

And finally this. The brain trust of these police officers on the school visitation came to this conclusion.

Similar weapons have been removed from police motorcycles during the investigation.

Just during the investigation, mind you. My question is this: when they say similar weapons have been removed are they talking about rifles, or the the police officers who were reckless and allowed for this event to happen in the first place?

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Guns In School -- Sparks, Nevada Added To The Tragedy List

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Early reports from the tragic shooting in a Sparks, Nevada middle school.

A 13-year-old witness told the Reno Gazette-Journal that he saw a boy in a Sparks Middle School uniform shoot a teacher.

The witness, Kyle Nucum, (see video below) said that he heard a "pop" when he was outside of the school, and that a teacher came to investigate. When they approached the shooter, the boy shot the teacher.

Two people are dead and two boys are in critical condition after a shooter opened fire at Sparks Middle School in northern Nevada this morning, according to police.

More to follow.

Are we still waiting to consider gun regulations?

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VIDEO: Texas school worker shot during gun training class

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In the state of Texas this happened, according to a school board member: "There was an accident involving one of the employees today."

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This "accident"-- usually in the case of firearms calamities, it's negligence-- occurred during a district-sponsored concealed handgun license class for teachers, because, as you can see, nothing says "safe" like having guns on campuses.

Leslie Goode, a school board member, said this didn't change his mind about arming teachers. Pshyeah, he didn't get shot, but a man who works in the maintenance department sure did.

NBC has more:

The employee from the Van Independent School District had stayed for one-on-one training after class with the concealed handgun license training instructor on Tuesday when a mechanical malfunction with his weapon caused his gun to misfire, NBC affiliate KETK reported. The bullet ricocheted, striking the employee in the left leg; his injury was not life-threatening, the affiliate said.

What if that "malfunction" had happened in the classroom?

And hey! Who needs "bad guys" when the "good guys" shoot themselves?

Here's a bonus L.A. Times letter to the editor, because our voices matter:

Re “Glendale schools boost security,” Feb. 25

This weekend, Glendale will host its annual gun show at the Civic Auditorium, conveniently located near a skate park, schools and opening-day Little League fields. Seems to me if officials want to take steps to make Glendale schools safer, they could start at the heart of the problem, namely by making it more difficult to get more guns and ammo.

It's not a lack of security in our schools — it's the guns, this country's addiction to them and fear run amok that are threatening our communities.

Maddie Gavel-Briggs
Pasadena

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