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Dorner case dispels the “nutty notion that a citizen can be heavily enough armed to fight off the government”

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George Skelton’s column in today’s L.A. Times makes so many good points, it’s hard to know where to start. Here’s as good a place as any:

The nutty notion that a citizen can be heavily enough armed to fight off the government went up in smoke near Big Bear Lake.

Then Skelton went on to share some emails he’s received from, erm, ardent gun owners. Here are a couple of excerpts:

The [purpose of the] 2nd Amendment is to enable ‘the people’ … to protect themselves against government tyranny.” [...]

Then there are the right-wing racists, like Pam:

“When that redistributionist Marxist [deleted] Obama decides to take away decent people’s homes and businesses and give them to the black criminal gangbangers, the garbage illegal aliens [deleted] and the rest of the low information welfare/food stamp crowd who voted for him, we who have our guns can meet them at the door, loaded and ready.

And there are many like Bryan, who asked: “What if the German Jews had been well armed” against Hitler?

My answer: They would have been slaughtered by the Nazi Panzer divisions.

The French and Poles were well armed. How’d that work out?

Skelton describes how many people believe the part about the Second Amendment right to bear arms “being necessary to the security of a free state,” but ignore the part about the militia being “well regulated.”

He explains how it should be “obvious to everyone by now that the right to bear arms can be ‘infringed.’ We’re not allowed to bear bazookas. Or machine guns. No automatic rifles.”

And for good reason, despite the recurring case being made these days about the right to own semi-automatics (“assault weapons”) and large capacity magazines.

However:

As of this writing, it’s not clear what suspected killer Christopher Dorner had in his arsenal. But it was enough to hold off law enforcement in Tuesday’s shootout until someone upped the firepower, literally, by lobbying incendiary tear gas into the cabin where the axed cop apparently was making a last stand against the government.

The government virtually always wins.

He then reminds us that Jefferson Davis’s rebels failed to fight off northern “tyranny” — and “back then the U.S. government didn’t have tanks or drones, let alone ballistic missiles.”

There’s that.

But neither Washington, D.C., nor the LAPD is a foreign power. Americans are not going to permit Uzi-armed citizens to rebel against their country, regardless of any “tyranny” some disgruntled misfits might perceive.

Some in the Los Angeles Police Department who were on the lookout for Dorner ended up shooting at women and others who bore no resemblance to the suspect, a controversy our own David Garber wrote about in his post Mistaken Identity or Trigger Happy?

But as Skelton notes, “that calls for firing, not armed citizen rebellion.”

As he also notes, guns are for hunting and for protection. I haven’t seen too many arguments against those assertions, even from people like me who are no fans of guns in general. Of course, if it were up to me, I’d prefer that no animals be killed for sport, and that guns be as rare as “pro-lifers” would like abortion to be.

Skelton ends with this:

Guns to overthrow tyranny, irrational. That’s why our founders gave us the ballot box.

The Second Amendment remedies for “government tyranny” just don’t make sense. The way to “overthrow” government officials is to vote them out, not shoot at them. And in the unlikely event that the American government actually were to become a real threat, assault weapons would be no match for drones, tanks, or anything else in the government arsenal.

Time to retire that talking point and way of thinking and enter the real world.

Largest gun show in DC raises admission to help bankroll fight against Obama’s gun safety measures

Stop Handgun Violence sign Massachusetts gun shows background checks

Stop Handgun Violence sign, Massachusetts

 

What is so damned hard about processing this Constitutionally protected right and fact: America, you are still, and will continue to be, able to “keep and bear your guns.”

Oversight and common sense safety measures to keep more children and adults from being sprayed with bullets will not infringe on anyone’s Second Amendment rights. You know what infringes on rights? People who kill other people with weapons that belong– exclusively– in the hands of our military service members.

“Right-to-lifers” might want to check their hypocrisy at the door for two minutes and think about who and what they’re defending.

They might want to consider twenty children and their right to not get killed.

They might want to have just a tad of empathy for those who couldn’t fight back against an angry gun owner who fully intended to slaughter living, breathing human beings with his seemingly endless stream of bullets aimed at their heads… like Gabby Giffords, for example.

Or the five-year-olds at Sandy Hook Elementary whose little faces were blasted and shredded beyond recognition.

But clinging to the “right” to an assault rifle trumps men, women, and children clinging to their last breath.

And to make matters worse, these same self-righteous gunners prioritize lobbyists and profit over real liberty: The freedom to breathe.

Via The Hill:

Thousands of gun enthusiasts are descending upon the “Nation’s Gun Show” at the Dulles Expo Center this weekend and, for the first time in five years, are being greeted with a higher cost of entry as the gun rights community wages a tough, and costly, campaign to stop Obama and Congress from stiffening certain gun laws.

Admission has gone up because we are using the money to fight so you can keep and bear your guns,” read the sign on the front doors to the gun show.

“We have already spent $25,000 this year to stop impending legislation by hiring lawyers, lobbyists, and writing bills.” [...]

“Got to get them while you can,” said one man, who had just purchased an AR-15 assault-style weapon for $1,599 and a 42-round clip for $45. He did not want to be identified.

It has been well-established that military-style weapons and high-capacity magazines are not necessary for hunting, nor have any gun “enthusiasts” documented a case in which they’ve been used to defend a homeowner from an intruder.

That much was made clear at the Senate hearings on gun violence and in this video of Lawrence O’Donnell eviscerating gun hugger Gayle Trotter. But that didn’t stop “the steadily paced stream of gun buyers slow[ing] to a stop in front of the dealers hawking assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines.”

It’s rather important to note that the largest gun show in the DC area allowed for private sales. That means no sales tax and no background checks required.

What could possibly go wrong?

Bonus Cartoon of the Day- Priorities

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The second most important thing to Mitch McConnell: the American people

Mitch McConnell, 2010:

 

Today’s L.A. Times letter to the editor, because our voices matter (but apparently not to the L.A. Times which, true to form, has yet to publish them on their web site today):

Elections matter

Re: “Obama takes fight to social media,” Nov. 29

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) once said that his most important job was to make Barack Obama a one-term president. He failed. Now, with the fiscal cliff ahead, perhaps he can accomplish something for the second most important thing to him: the American people.

R.J. Cimiluca

Los Angeles

Second? Nah. We’re way down on the list.

VIDEO: United Auto Workers, 6 more organizations file ethics complaint against Mitt Romney

In a previous post, “UAW Charges Romney With Profiteering From Auto Bailout,” Greg Palast’s report that Romney secretly made millions, and his biggest donors billions, off the taxpayer funded auto bailout got some attention.

Palast had written about how Mitt and “Ann, personally gained at least $15.3 million from the bailout—and a few of Romney’s most important Wall Street donors made more than $4 billion. Their gains, and the Romneys’, were astronomical—more than 3,000 percent on their investment.” And the UAW and others listened.

Bob King, President of the United Automobile Workers pointed out that Mitt Romney was busy writing op-eds opposing the Detroit auto rescue, but was even busier making money with his Delphi investor group “off the misfortunes of others.”

In the video below, you’ll hear King’s first hand account of how the UAW and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) “have filed a formal complaint with the US Office of Government Ethics in Washington stating that Gov. Romney improperly hid a profit of $15.3 million to $115.0 million in Ann Romney’s so-called ‘blind’ trust.”

Here is Ed Schultz interviewing him on last night’s “The Ed Show”:

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UAW Charges Romney With Profiteering From Auto Bailout

Greg Palast previously reported that Romney secretly made millions, and his biggest donors billions, off the taxpayer funded auto bailout. He wrote about how Mitt and “Ann, personally gained at least $15.3 million from the bailout—and a few of Romney’s most important Wall Street donors made more than $4 billion. Their gains, and the Romneys’, were astronomical—more than 3,000 percent on their investment.”

As Bob King, President of the United Automobile Workers pointed out, Mitt Romney was busy writing op-eds opposing the Detroit auto rescue, but was even busier making money with his Delphi investor group “off the misfortunes of others.”

Greg Palast now has a follow-up at Truthout:

[Mitt Romney] has just learned that tomorrow afternoon (November 1) he will be charged by the United Automobile Workers (UAW) and other public interest groups with violating the federal ethics in government law by improperly concealing his multi-million dollar windfall from the auto industry bailout.

King said that the UAW and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW) “have filed a formal complaint with the US Office of Government Ethics in Washington stating that Gov. Romney improperly hid a profit of $15.3 million to $115.0 million in Ann Romney’s so-called ‘blind’ trust.”

The UAW complaint calls for Romney to reveal exactly how much he made off Delphi — and continues to make.  The Singer syndicate, once in control of Delphi, eliminated every single UAW job –25,000– and moved almost all auto parts production to Mexico and China where Delphi now employs 25,000 auto parts workers.

More details here.

Romney too busy with “flag football” game, avoids questions about talks with Iran

Last night NSC Spokesman Tommy Vietor released a statement that it was “not true” that Iran would hold one-on-one nuclear talks with the U.S. for the first time. As the L.A. Times noted this morning, they didn’t deny that the overture was made by Iran, just that there are no talks in the works:

The White House on Saturday issued a statement denying that it had agreed to one-on-one talks with Tehran after the election. But it didn’t deny a report on the New York Times website that Iran had offered, for the first time, to engage in such talks with the United States after Nov. 6. The White House statement also noted that U.S. officials had said “from the outset that we would be prepared to meet bilaterally.”

The reaction I got from Obama supporters on Twitter and Facebook to the initial reporting was a big “yay!” that this could be the president’s October surprise, then a collective “booooo!” when the New York Times article was contradicted by the White House. We were all a-flutter about how Mitt Romney would respond at the next debate on foreign policy.

Would he attack the president for “negotiating with terrorists”? Would he finally say definitively that he’d rather bomb Iran to smithereens, engaging in yet another war in the Middle East? Or would he *gasp!* agree that a meeting might be productive?

He was asked about all this today, which he of course sidestepped, because see, it cut into his time flipping a coin to determine the starting team for a flag football match between his aides (and his wife) and some traveling press corps members.

The latest from the L.A. Times:

DEL RAY BEACH, Fla. — On the eve of the final presidential debate — on foreign policy — Mitt Romney declined Sunday to say whether he would favor one-on-one negotiations with Iran to resolve the deadlock over that country’s nuclear program. [...]

Romney aide Garrett Jackson, interrupted: “Guys this is a football game. Come on. Are you kidding me?”

“I thought you were talking about one-on-one talks with the president,” Romney said. “I was about to answer.”

You thought I was exaggerating? Oh “you people” and your silly questions. Oh that Willard and his priorities.

And his lack of specifics.

Romney has never directly addressed whether he would engage in one-on-one talks with Iran. But he has hinted that he would not, criticizing Obama for saying during the 2008 campaign that he would sit down with Iranian leaders without preconditions. [...]

The Romney campaign has not issued any statement on the New York Times report, and does not plan to do so before the debate.

Of course he won’t answer. He’s saving it all up for that Big Pounce tomorrow night. With any luck, it will be as effective as the one he got so lathered up about when Candy Crowley nailed him on a lie.