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Teens flee polygamist sect of Mormon Church, learn what the president & saltwater are, women aren’t subservient “poisonous snakes”

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Zach Bowers is a “plig.” No, I’m not being insulting, nor was that a “pig” typo. “Plig” is short for polygamist child, and Zach and his brother grew up in a Utah polygamist compound. His dad married two sisters and raised 32 children.

About four years ago he had an argument with Polygamist Dad, left home, and joined an ongoing exodus– read: escape– from the sect. Of course, not all Mormons practice polygamy. The main Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints disavowed that a century ago, but per a report in the Los Angeles Times, Zach defected from “the secretive Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, a breakaway sect of the Mormon Church that practices polygamy, dictates almost all aspects of people’s lives and casts women into subservience.”

He’s 18 now, and he, his older brother, and his younger half-brother live northeast of Las Vegas with a caring married couple, along with their two kids, in a six-bedroom house.

They’re adjusting well, but learning about “the intimacy of a nuclear family” with “parental figures” and living a more mainstream life has been challenging:

On his first ocean swim, Zach gulped water and nearly vomited: He’d never heard of saltwater. They’ve learned how to talk to girls, whom church elders warned “to avoid like poisonous snakes.” [...]

Sect members who escape their compound are largely invisible to society, and are often without birth certificates or Social Security numbers. [...]

Zach was home-schooled — lessons involved reading the Bible and the Book of Mormon exclusively — and he was forbidden from watching TV or reading newspapers. He left the sect with little grasp of math, science or history. Multiplication tables baffled him and his reading skills were below normal. Zach admits he didn’t know who Osama bin Laden was until the terrorist leader was killed in 2011.

“I didn’t even know what the president was,” he said. “I knew there was somebody over the United States, but I didn’t know they called it the president.”

Both Zach and Isaiah were once told how to wear their hair, what type of shoes to wear. They could never take off their long-sleeved shirts in public and had to wear long underwear year-round.

No birth certificates or Social Security numbers would make it impossible to vote for a president they never knew existed, as well as any other candidate or issue.

It took a few months for Zach to realize girls weren’t poisonous snakes and to realize what “Star Wars” movies were. And understandably, the brothers now distrust organized religion.

But because of the couple that took them in, they are learning what a loving family really is.

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Quickie- Bush Had More Mormon Support Than Romney

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Why yes, I am still schadenfreuding. Via.

Pew Research finds that Mitt Romney won 78% of the Mormon vote in the 2102 presidential election.

In 2004, George W. Bush was backed by 80% of Mormons.

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“Mitt Romney’s Role as Mormon Bishop Shows His Extremist Religious Beliefs”

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Nancy L. Cohen’s book is available on Amazon here.

Nancy L. Cohen has written a post at AlterNet as well as a book, Delirium. In her post, she discusses a few good reasons why Willard M. Romney has avoided the topic of his Mormonism. I touched on that in a previous post, Brigham Young’s great-great-granddaughter on Mormonism, Mitt Romney, and “Lying for the Lord.”

And here in another post, Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney threatened to excommunicate young single mom if she didn’t give up baby. As Nancy says in her own post, “Somehow this tale didn’t make it into the Mormon Moment at the Republican National Convention.”

She takes it from there:

Romney is “a loving father, man of faith, and a caring and compassionate friend,” we learned in Tampa, in genuinely moving stories from Mormons Romney pastored. But there’s another side of Romney’s story that begs to be told. In the wake of Todd Akin’s rape comments and the GOP’s adoption of an extremist platform, voters deserve to hear about how Romney has imposed Mormonism’s retrograde doctrines about women, gays and sex on the people he has authority over. [...]

Chosen as a kind of enforcer-in-chief, Romney betrayed a zeal far beyond the call of duty. Bishop Romney tried to stop a mother of four whose health was seriously endangered by her pregnancy from having an abortion. The church allows abortion in cases of rape, incest, and danger to the life of the mother, provided a male LDS authority gives permission to the pregnant woman. Romney’s superior had already told the woman to proceed for the sake of her health; Romney intervened. Romney refused to allow an infertile couple to take advantage of the LDS adoption service until the wife agreed to quit her job and be a stay-at-home mother. Other reliable reports of Mitt’s years as a Mormon clergyman have him excommunicating adulterers, calling homosexuals under his authority “perverse,” warning a middle-aged divorced woman that she was not allowed to have sex, and telling a leading Mormon feminist, “You’re not my kind of Mormon.”

Perhaps this is why Romney has been as cagey about his Mormonism as he is about his Cayman Islands tax shelters…. The issue is whether a President Romney would be able to separate his actions as president from Mormon doctrines about how to live on this planet.

Please go here for details. This is a must-read.

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President Obama and Mitt Romney open up about their faith

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Cathedral Age is the quarterly magazine of the Washington National Cathedral that interviewed President Obama and Willard M. Romney about Christian faith and Mormonism respectively.

Now if you really want a revealing peek into Willard’s religious life, check out Brigham Young’s great-great-granddaughter on Mormonism, Mitt Romney, and “Lying for the Lord”.

But for now, CNN provides the following quote by Romney from the King James Version of the text, the official English translation of the Bible for Mormons:

The magazine asked each candidate whether he has a favorite passage of Scripture, prayer or other “words of wisdom.”

Romney quoted the Gospel of Matthew: “For I was hungry, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me. …”

Or as I like to call it, socialism.

What an odd invocation from someone who disdains and lies about welfare, Medicare, and Medicaid, the programs that give ye meat, drink, and medical care (aka life). Thou shalt not lie, Mitt.

Then Willard said the following:

“I am often asked about my faith and my beliefs about Jesus Christ. I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind. Every religion has its own unique doctrines and history. These should not be bases for criticism but rather a test of our tolerance. Religious tolerance would be a shallow principle indeed if it were reserved only for faiths with which we agree.

Says the guy who has no tolerance for people with a different sexual orientation than his, less wealth, or are a different gender than he is.

Romney never mentions his Mormon faith by name in his responses

After what Brigham Young’s great-great-granddaughter wrote, it’s no wonder.

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So Mitt Romney, about your Mormonism…

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Helen C. Whitney makes documentary films and produced PBS series, “The Mormons.” Gregory A. Prince is a biologist, author and consultant on Whitney’s documentary as well as a practicing Latter-day Saint. They wrote a piece for HuffPo that implores Willard M. Romney to address his religion in an earnest, straightforward way.

Previously I posted about Brigham Young’s great-great-granddaughter on Mormonism, Mitt Romney, and “Lying for the Lord”, a completely different take on the topic and well-worth a read if you missed it.

Here are a couple of excerpts from the Whitney/Prince piece:

His “Mormon Moment” is laden with obligation: never in the history of the United States has an ordained minister been a major party’s candidate for the presidency. The Mormon Church has a lay priesthood, and by virtue of his ordination to the offices of Bishop and Stake President, Romney has occupied ecclesiastical positions equivalent to those within the Roman Catholic Church of Priest and Bishop. Were a Catholic Bishop to run for the presidency, there would doubtless be a demand that he address aspects of his religion in far greater detail than would be required of candidates never ordained to the ministry — and thus Gov. Romney’s obligation.

But it is also a moment of opportunity: Ever since Joseph Smith founded Mormonism in 1830, no other American religion has aroused so much fear and hatred; none has been the object of so much misinformation, falsehood — and persecution. [...]

With this in mind, we invite Gov. Romney to seize the opportunity to clear away the fog that continues to obscure a religion whose effect can be so powerful — and so positive — that it led his father George to proclaim in 1968, “I am completely the product of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” 

And then they ask nine very fair, very respectful questions. Please hop over and take a look.

I kinda wish they’d asked about that “lying for the lord” thing. That’s a genuine concern.

They end by wisely stating the obvious, that Willard has yet to answer questions about his religion, would be making himself vulnerable to criticism, and is, ahem, prone to secrecy.

But despite his unwillingness to speak frankly about who he is and what he believes, they strongly urge him to respond anyway, because he needs to be more transparent, America needs to understand him better, and Mormonism is a huge part of his life and worldview, so opening up about it would be helpful… and novel.

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Mormon Church leader booted after he is charged with sexual assault in penis biting

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Can’t breathe, laughing too hard**. Really enjoying using “penis biter” as a tag. Funny, it’s the first time.

A church leader in Sandy was promptly released from his calling after allegedly biting another man’s penis and sexually abusing that man’s little sister.

Prosecutors charged Efrey Guzman, 46, of Sandy, on Tuesday in 3rd District Court for aggravated sexual assault, aggravated burglary, both first-degree felonies, and sex abuse of a child and forcible sexual abuse, both second-degree felonies.

Guzman was an LDS branch president over a Latino congregation in Sandy. A branch is smaller than a ward organization.

Honestly, penis biting is up there with wetsuits and dildos.

On May 8, Guzman knocked on the door of the 13-year-old girl’s house, near 4500 South and Gordon Lane (345 East), according to charging documents.

The girl, who referred to Guzman as a “family friend,” told police Guzman suddenly grabbed her, hugged her tightly, started kissing her on the mouth and grabbed her buttocks. The girl’s 20-year-old brother walked into the room, and Guzman left.

(snip)

On Aug. 2, Guzman came back to the house, asking to see the girl again. The mother answered the door, refused to let him see her and told Guzman to leave. Guzman pushed his way into the house and attacked her, ripping her shirt and grabbing her exposed breast, court documents state. When the mother called out for help, her son came into the room.

As the son was trying to pull Guzman off his mother, Guzman attacked the son, grabbed his penis from his boxer shorts and “bit his penis, causing severe damage that required surgery,” according to charging documents.

**Someone criticized me over laughing about this, and may I plainly state what should be obvious, I’m laughing over the general hypocrisy of religion NOT the horrific injury to the boy or general molestation situation.

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Brigham Young’s great-great-granddaughter on Mormonism, Mitt Romney, and “Lying for the Lord”

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Per an exclusive at The Daily Beast, Sue Emmett’s great-great-grandfather was Brigham Young, the founder of Salt Lake City, first governor of Utah, and president and prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) from 1847 until his death in 1877.

As an adult, she started having doubts about “the ethics and veracity of the church’s doctrine and its founders, including Young himself, and she grew increasingly concerned with the way, she says, the church treats women.”

Why bring this up? Well, for one, the guy who is about to become the official Republican nominee for president of the United States is Mormon, and Sue Emmett has a few insights to share about what makes Mitt Romney tick.

Via The Daily Beast:

Emmett has watched Mitt Romney very closely throughout his public life and has strong opinions about what shaped his personality and his character. “Mitt is a product not only of his wealth, but of an organization that gives men power when they are 12 years old,” she says. “That is when boys are ordained with the priesthood. It is a big moment in a Mormon male’s childhood.”

As for what pundits say is Romney’s difficulty connecting with people, Emmett blames it largely on what she calls “the entitled Mormon male syndrome, where the leadership professes compassion and concern but leaves the manifestations of that to the drones. All male leadership is not this way; there are some wonderful men who do their best to exercise their power compassionately, but many do not.”

Emmett says Romney was a bishop, “a position where everyone defers to you. What a bishop says goes. People come to them to receive blessings.” He then became a stake president, she says, which means he presided over several congregations, and at that point bishops deferred to him.

“Mitt has had people defer to him and not challenge him his entire life,” says Emmett. “In the Mormon church if you challenge your priesthood leaders it’s a very bad thing to do, especially for women. As the world can now see, Mitt has a very hard time with being questioned and criticized; he’s had so little of this in his life.

Ever wonder about Willard’s flip flops about abortion rights? Well, according to Emmett, he got permission from church leaders in Salt Lake to change his position to that of supporting a woman’s right to choose once upon a time. When it suited him politically.

What else does he need permission for?

She also believes he has truth issues, meaning he has difficulty sticking to it, or as I like to call it, lying. This quote from Emmett is rather disturbing: “Some modern apostles actually taught that it is not always the best thing to tell the truth if it interferes with preaching gospel.” She referred to it as “Lying for the Lord.”

So he has permission to lie “for a higher cause.” Got it.

Ken Clark worked as a teacher for the LDS Church Education System for over 25 years and also served as a bishop before leaving the church in 2003. Here’s what he said:

“But what happens is when this becomes a part of your ethical tool kit, you develop a condescending attitude toward people. Like Ann Romney saying ‘you people.’ This idea of lying for the Lord gives you license to place people on an inferior level.”

Explains a lot, doesn’t it?

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