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Utah Seeks Political Power By Giving Up 3/4ths Of It


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Aside from salt and religion, not too much comes out of Salt Lake City -- well, unless you're a Mormon. And most of what I know about being a Mormon I learned from The Book Of Mormon -- the musical. I can't say that lifestyle is for me.

But I don't think that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints members are stupid by any means. They may be horny  (Utah leads the nation in pornographic purchases) but they are pretty savvy as a whole. They number 15 million members world-wide. Yet if they are the motivating factor in this latest scheme to become more relevant in the political world, they may have crested with Mitt Romney and now are walking back from that experiment.

According to The Hill:

In 2016, an unusual state could snatch the coveted first-primary spot away from New Hampshire if its legislature gets its way: Utah

The Utah state House voted overwhelmingly on Monday in favor of a bill that would allow the state to hold its presidential primary a week before any other state in the nation, via an entirely online system, according to the Salt Lake Tribune.

This is quite interesting on a number of levels. First, the primary is to be totally online. Yep, no open polls. Only internet voting. That's pretty progressive if you ask me. The state is 68% Mormon. I just never thought of all of those folks as being so progressive. Actually, the opposite might have been my first thought. I see now that I was wrong. You learn something new every day.

Yet here comes the confusing part. The state wants to up its profile as being politically meaningful. By pushing to become the first state in the nation to hold a primary, a spot normally held by New Hampshire, Utah very well might become more relevant. It could happen. But there's something else that could happen too if they choose to make this move. They'll have to face the wrath of Reince Priebus and the entire RNC.

Currently the state sends 40 delegates to the GOP nominating convention.

If Utah goes through with the change, its 40 GOP delegates to the national convention will be cut down to just nine.

Nine voices for a state that could have 40. That's roughly a 3/4 cut. Does that make them more or less relevant and meaningful or just another small voice at the convention?


Weekly Upchuck: The Most Shocking Religion News of Last Week, with Mega-Antidotes!


what's up chuck 3 religion news Please welcome back regular guest contributor, author of Being Christian and the go-to blogger on religion news, hypocrisy, and all things church v. state,  K.C. Boyd. You might remember her from her earlier posts. You can link over to her site here for the rest of this post. It’s well worth a look, because I left out a ton of great upchuckable stuff, including antidotes! These are but a few of her weekly "where religion meets your rights" collection:

The Weekly Upchuck

– by K. C. Boyd


  • Say What-Chuck? Inn of the Fetus? Pro-life VA Senate values rights of fetus over those of ‘host,’ which ‘some refer 2 as mothers’


  • Never Stopping-Puke: Missouri Bill Would Allow Students To “Opt-Out” of Learning Evolution.


  • Stockman Campaign-Chux: Obama Administration Marriage Equality Stance ‘Setting Up For A Dictatorship’ \

End Times, Creationism and Other Religious Spew

  • Cult-Like, Corrupt and Christian Conservative-Regurgitus: Inside the Campus Group Creating Wal-Mart Managers

Fifty Shades of Hate

  • Invoking the Worst-Chuck: Bryan Fischer supports AZ’s anti-gay discrimination law because gay activists are “jack-booted homofascist thugs”:
  • No Surprise Here-Chuck: How Fox News Helped Promote State Anti-Gay Segregation Bills

Fifty Shades Of Loony

  • Thank God For Magic Underwear-Chuck! Mormons Declare War on Masturbation (Hint:U Can B Cured)

Sausage Makers and Their Sausage

  • Sponsored By Hate Inc.-Chuck: Missouri lawmakers introduce ‘right to refuse service’ religious freedom bill.
  • Simple Vomit: Louie Gohmert: God ‘answered my prayers’ by creating the Tea Party

Same Sex Issues

  • So Much For Jesus-Chuck: 50 Michigan pastors speak out against gay marriage on eve of lesbian adoption trial
  • Hate Lobby-Spews: Lobbyist drafts bill to ban gays from the NFL



  • Up Your Chuck-Chuck: Should you doubt it’s theocracy they’re after: GOP Senate candidate Paul Broun vows to vote only for ‘biblical’
  • Tea-Puke: And should you doubt the Tea Party is but a wing of fundie Christians, there’s this: Kansas Tea Party urges state senators to legalize discrimination against LGBT citizens:

Women’s Issues

  • She Made Me Do It Vomit-Upchuck-Hurl-Barf: Christian colleges, in their male dominance/female subservience culture, blame rape victims for enticement

And for "A Great Week For Antidotes" and more Upchucks, follow the link to K.C.'s page.


Thursday Links


USPSLogoORIGElizabeth Warren: End Usurious Payday Loan Exploitation by Making Post Offices Mini-Banks

Mormon President Ordered to Appear in UK Court

Pat Robertson implores creationist Ken Ham to shut up: ‘Let’s not make a joke of ourselves’

RadioShack Is Still Around, But Reportedly Closing 500 Stores

How Did Target Stores Get Hacked? Through A Vendor's Remote Access To Their System (or why I will never use my credit card at Target ever again)

Ever Wondered How to Embed a YouTube Video? There's a Video for That.

All You Ever Wanted to Know (and more) About Requited and Unrequited Love in the Harry Potter Books

How Climate Change Is Worsening California's Epic Drought

19 Dogs Standing Up To Sochi’s Deplorable Treatment Of Stray Dogs


"God-- I Love The Guy But The Fan Clubs Freak Me Out"



What happens when you have a debate between an Atheist, and a Christian? You get fireworks, a surprising argument and some wide-eyed discussion. Oh, and believe it or not, lots of laughs.

One of the points brought up by John Fugelsang, representing the Christian point of view, is his own background. He describes his family this way, "my mother was an ex-nun and my father was a Franciscan brother.

I'm the whitest guy in this room but you could say my mother was a Sister and my father was a Brother.

That's religion for you. It makes for some pretty strange bedfellows.

Fugelsang argues that those who hold the bible so dear to themselves would have trouble these days with electing Jesus for public office. After all, he was:

...a socialist. peaceful, radical non-violent revolutionary, hung out with lepers, hookers and crooks, never spoke English, wasn't an American citizen, was anti-wealth, anti-death penalty, anti-public prayer (Matthew 6:5) never anti-gay, never anti-abortion, never anti-premarital sex, long haired, brown skinned and a Jew.

And that's the Christian making that argument. Does make you pause.

On the Agnostic side, you get Jamie Kilstein who explains his disappointment with creationism by referring to how the majestic beauty of Niagara Falls wasn't part of the God's original plan. Sort of an afterthought.

So for sure you'll be entertained and enlightened with this humorous debate. You don't have to agree or disagree with either side -- but listening to it is fun. At least I hope you find it so.