It stops about 7:42, I couldn’t get it to cut off. I don’t want to make light of age/and or memory problems, but damn if Peggy doesn’t need to see a doctor. Gregory’s attempt at sanity didn’t even faze her. BTW, the mantra in our house every time she comes on now is, “F*** Peggy Noonan.”
Seriously, could Lowry and Gingrich been any more dismissive and snide? Gregory is just his tooly self, and you can actually see HFJR’s brain clicking to make sure he doesn’t offend his “benefactors”… either that or he’s stoned. Take a minute and watch this with no sound. Other than a brief, well deserved eye roll from Joy Ann, Newty and Richy seem to be competing in a Facial Olympics Condescension event.
Marco Rubio said so many completely erroneous and idiotic things while appearing on seven talk shows in one day that I had to break them up into two separate posts. This is Part Two of two. Part One is here, where you can also find the video of the entire Meet the Press segment. I could only bring myself to watch that one program of the seven, and believe me, that was more than enough, as you can see by the amount of material he gave me.
When we last left Marco, he was in full-on bull pucky mode. Let us now rejoin the Senator’s self-imposed humiliation already in progress:
Here is my point and has always been my point on gun laws. They are highly ineffective in terms of accomplishing the following goal and that is to protect the right of law abiding citizens to possess weapons which the Second Amendment guarantees, the constitutional right, and they are ineffective at keeping guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals who quite frankly, because they’re criminals, don’t care what the law is…
… We are spending all of our time talking about background checks as if somehow criminals will no longer get guns because they have to undergo a background check. We’re lying to people. That isn’t true.
He got one thing right: They’re lying to people.
But there’s that good old GOP “logic” again. Yes, Marco, criminals ignore laws. So, using his reasoning, stop signs are ineffective because scofflaws run them. The solution? Do away with stop signs.
Same goes for any laws for that matter. Bank robbers continue to rob banks (at gunpoint, of course); people still cross our borders illegally (Oops! There go all those strict border crossing restrictions); and pay no mind to those rapists behind the curtain, because clearly, they are not the least bit intimidated by the threat of imprisonment. Nor are muggers. Or politicians who kidnap 20-year-old men, give them alcohol, ask repeatedly for oral sex, and fire guns into walls.
The Second Amendment is a constitutional right. I didn’t write that into the Constitution. That’s in there. And any time you’re going to do anything that impacts a constitutional right, the scrutiny should be very, very high. And that’s what I’m applying to this. If someone can produce a law that keeps guns out of the hands of criminals but protects the right of law abiding citizens to possess them and doesn’t infringe on those rights, I would consider that. But the proposals I’ve seen so far– I haven’t fully read the Toomey/Manchin compromise– but all the proposals I’ve seen so far do not achieve that goal…
There is nothing in any of the gun safety proposals that infringes on anyone’s Second Amendment rights. Drop it. That is a completely false and irrelevant argument. Drop it. Nobody’s rights are impacted. Nobody’s. Drop it. Better yet:
Well, first of all, I don’t agree the Republican party is characterized by intolerance or looking down on anybody and I respectfully disagree with someone who i think has served our country admirably. … Obviously there’s political ramifications to everything we do in Washington, but it’s not the reason to do it and it certainly isn’t the reason I’m involved in doing this…
Not doing this because of political ramifications? How can he say that with a straight face? See: Autopsy, Republican.
My last point on this, I think Republicans need to do a better job of reaching out to everyone in the United States. Politics is always about getting the support of the majority of our people. And I think the best way to do that is for the Republican party to prove, as I think we can, that we are the party of upward mobility. We are not the party of the people who have made it. Certainly we don’t begrudge people who have made it. we celebrate what they’ve done.
“We are not the party of the people who have made it.” Again, seriously? I could write pages and pages about this, but instead, let’s save time and just sum it up this way: Mitt Romney 2012.
And in America we’ve always celebrated success. But we are the party for the people trying to make it, who are trying to start a business out of the spare bedroom of their home who are trying to give their kids a better life. …
I don’t know anything about these polls. And I quite frankly I don’t spend a lot of time analyzing them. This isn’t about improving anyone’s poll numbers.
Marco, Marco, Marco, if that were true, not only would the GOP Autopsy not have been about attracting more voters (as in, “We lost the election and our poll numbers continue to suck”), but you wouldn’t be appearing on seven talk shows in one day.
You might have seen NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre on Meet The Press last Sunday, where he said gun background check system was “a speed bump” for law-abiding citizens and “does nothing to anybody else.”
I’m not often in agreement with Wayne, but this is actually an extraordinarily apt metaphor. Like speed bumps, background checks are a simple, commonsense measure that don’t inconvenience law-abiding citizens and have a proven track-record saving lives. For most gun buyers they take less time than ordering a cup of coffee, and they bring felons, the seriously mentally ill, and other dangerous people to a dead stop. If anything, the background check system should function more like speed bumps and apply to all gun buyers alike — whether they are purchasing from a gun dealer or a private seller.
The attached infographic and fact sheet provide some more details, and please don’t hesitate to get in touch if you have any additional questions.
On NBC’s Meet The Press on March 23, 2013, NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre compared gun background checks to speed bumps: “ [A background check] is a speed bump for the law-abiding. It slows down the law-abiding and does nothing to anybody else.
Speed bumps are in fact an excellent metaphor for gun background checks — but LaPierre is wrong about their value. Both speed bumps and background checks save lives, and neither imposes much burden on people going about their business. If anything, the background check system should function more like speed bumps do: they apply to everyone equally.
Car accidents and guns kill tens of thousands of Americans every year.
33,687 Americans were killed in car accidents in 2010. Faster driving is associated with more fatalities, so simply by slowing drivers down, speed bumps prevent accidents and save lives.
32,672 Americans were killed with guns in 2010, and firearm homicide is the second leading cause of injury death among Americans aged 15-24. Because felons and other dangerous people are at a higher risk of committing gun violence, federal law prohibits them from buying guns. Background checks enforce this law –– by screening prospective gun buyers and blocking sales to those who are prohibited.
Both speed bumps and background checks are proven life-savers.
Children who live within a block of a speed hump are 60 percent less likely to be hit and injured by a car on their street than children that do not.
Each year, the background check system blocks 150,000 gun sales to dangerous people prohibited by law from having them — more than 2 million sales blocked since the system’s inception in 1998. And states that require background checks for all handgun sales have 48 percent less gun trafficking, 17 percent fewer firearm aggravated assaults, and 38 fewer women shot to death by an intimate partner.
Neither speed bumps nor background checks are a burden
Speed bumps don’t keep drivers from getting where they want to go. Communities have decided that the minor inconvenience of slowing down near schools, parks and other places with lots of pedestrians is well worth the lives it saves.
Background checks don’t keep gun buyers from getting any firearm they want. A check takes about 90 seconds to complete. Most people don’t mind waiting a couple minutes to save a lot of lives.
Drivers can’t avoid speed bumps. But anyone can avoid a background check.
While background checks are required for dealer sales, almost anyone can buy a gun from an unlicensed “private seller” with no background check, no questions asked. An estimated 40 percent of gun transfers happen this way. Treating sales by licensed and unlicensed sellers equally and requiring background checks for all buyers would keep guns out of the wrong hands.
If federal law required a background check for private sales, sellers and buyers would meet at a licensed gun dealer to get their check, rather than a parking lot or other public place. This isn’t burdensome either – because there are 58,344 gun dealers in the U.S., nearly twice the number of post offices and four times the number of McDonald’s locations. A Mayors Against Illegal Guns analysis found that 98.4 percent of Americans live within 10 miles of a gun dealer.
We know a lot about speed bumps –but not nearly enough about gun violence.
The federal government has subjected speed bumps and other ‘traffic calming’ interventions to tens of millions of dollars of rigorous evaluation to determine that they work, and to use them effectively. Over the last decade, this has produced a dramatic national decline in traffic – related deaths.
Under pressure from the gun lobby, the U.S. government has withdrawn almost all public support for research on ways to prevent gun-related deaths and injuries – including the background check system.
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