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The New Political Battlefields: Red Meat Base-Baiting Comment Threads

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Many of us enjoy the occasional drop into Alternet, they truly do find or write up the unusual with consistent flair and By Golly, there was a gem today.

There is some really serious red-meat base baiting going on out there.

Divisiveness is at an all time high, this surprises no one. We all enjoy a good troll slaying from time to time, and even the Twitterz can get ugly. But here's some slightly more alarming quotes from an article by their Roberto Rodriguez.

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The unexpected new locations for hate crime scenes in the 21st century appear to be the comments sections of the nation's leading newspapers, where calls to violence have become routine and through which progressives have decided correcting the record is a waste of their time. ...

One normally associates hate crimes with cross burnings and lynchings or something equally heinous, however, the shocking and unexpected new locations for hate crime scenes in the 21st century appear to be the editorial pages of the nation's leading newspapers ... where calls to violence have also become routine.

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In Arizona, exposure to constant hate is a daily occurrence in the letters to the editor or comments section of media. Within these contexts, communities are subjected to vicious anti-Mexican and anti-immigrant hate disguised as discourse against "illegals," or "illegal aliens." ... Not a few intimate the use of extreme violence. ...

From caretaker: "FOKES THIS IS GOING TO LEAD TO US'' THE PEOPLE PROTECTING OUR COUNTRY OUR SELVES... THERE'S NO CHOICE, THIS IS WHAT OUR FORE FATHERS MEANT IN OUR CONSTITUTION ..."

From Fastfreddy: "Would you rather see the citizens of Arizona use the 2nd amendment as a solution to the illegal problem or rather see the courts try to solve the problem."
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If this constant badgering and threats of violence involved the daily haranguing of other peoples, for example, Jews, African Americans, Asian Americans, Native Americans, Anglo-Americans or any other identifiable group, it is assumed, per the newspaper's comment guidelines, that they would never make it into these pages. (4) But they inexplicably do and thus, the media, particularly letters to the editor sections, have become what I refer to as hate crime scenes.

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Seriously??!! Years ago I had a sock at Stormfront, one of the most hateful places on the above ground internetz or the Undernet … but to see the same brand of xenophobic, racist hate bandied about in places/comment threads my 16 year-old niece stumbles over every day?!

Unacceptable. We have to have some semblance of civilization, here. There have to be adults in the room, adults in the comment threads and adults in the pundit seats.

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This isn't sports, when the Red Sox lose another shot at the pennant, we wail and moan and curse … then recalibrate for next season.

This is politics. It is real life. I wasn't kidding earlier, it has become blood sport. It will kick you in the gut, the soul and the wallet if you let the apathy win and don't get to the polls and cast your vote, and raise your voice for the right progressive choices.

It's this bad, people. Schismatic is not too embellished a term, Maddow had the right of using it to describe just what the Tea Party hath wrought.

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Guess who: "Childish radicals who openly exult in the process of destroying the nation"

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Today's Los Angeles Times letters to the editor, because our voices matter:

Re "Name-calling trumps civility," Perspective, Oct. 7

Robin Abcarian has gotten to the core of our political discourse: Name-calling has indeed come to trump civility.

But why is that? Is it a symptom of our political dumbing down? Does it mean that we have run out of ideas? Have we lost our sense of being a politically exceptional nation?

I cannot imagine members of our current Congress being anything like the signers of the Declaration of Independence, who in 1776, appealing "to the supreme judge of the world for the rectitude of [their] intentions," pledged to each other their lives, their fortunes and their sacred honor.

I am hard-pressed to imagine our present Congress doing the same.

John H. Geerken

Claremont

The writer is a professor emeritus of history at Scripps College.

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Abcarian's evenhanded call for Democrats and Republicans to behave as adults misses the point, as all such appeals to civility must.

What is happening in Congress, and even more in state legislatures, is an ominous echo of May 22, 1856, when Southern Sen. Preston Brooks thrashed and almost killed anti-slavery Sen. Charles Sumner on the floor of the Senate with his cane.

The act epitomized the loss of civility in national discourse that was driving us toward civil war.

Today's campaign — waged for decades by one party to secure power for the powerful by degrading the political process to the lowest level of race-baiting class warfare — has spawned childish radicals who openly exult in the process of destroying the nation.

This madness can no longer be appeased by the only adults in the room. It must be confronted and named.

John Phillips

Camarillo

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We the people are the problem, not Congress.

We blame the tea party, we blame the Republicans and we blame the Democrats, but it is us, the voters, who elected these people who are in turn failing us.

Apparently, many voters have serious short-term memory problems because we continually elect these people and then complain that they are obstructionists and not doing their jobs.

Let's remember this shameful time and put a note on our refrigerators carrying this reminder: I will become an informed citizen and vote for people who will put the good of their country ahead of their self-interest.

Michael Pirosh

Irvine

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Video- Harry Reid Says Boehner Running House "Like A Dictatorship", Pundits Faint

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Ugh. First thing I heard when I turned on the t.v. on this afternoon was a couple of bobbleheads bemoaning Reid's "tone" What a bunch of delicate flowers our representatives must be.

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VIDEO: Once again, Chris Christie proves his need for anger management classes

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Calling someone an "idiot" and "stupid" apparently wasn't enough abuse for Chris Christie to spew in one week. No, he wasn't content to stay out of the spotlight and needed to let off more hostile steam in order to get extra bonus attention. Why anyone with this many anger management problems is considered fit to hold office is beyond me.

The latest Moment of Nasty was caught by TMZ right out in public on the Jersey shore. Christie had gotten some ice cream and someone made some comments about his education policy. The governor doesn't like criticism, so naturally, he defaulted to full-on offensive asshat mode:

"You're a real big shot ... you're a real big shot shootin' your mouth off."

The man shouted back, "Nah, just take care of the teachers!"

[Christie] aggressively marched towards the guy and warned, "Keep walkin' away ... really good ... keep walkin'."

See there? Doesn't that endearing little episode lend itself to all that bipartisan effort to just get along? How professional of Christie to, once again, look like the crass, out-of-control, blathering, irrational hothead he is.

I guess the notion of taking care of our teachers touched a nerve.

But it's all cool, because IOKIYAR.

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Mitt Romney lauds Gov. Chris Christie's behavior. Christie called a reporter an "idiot" and "stupid"

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The Republican party leader, Mitt Romney, has openly condoned shameless public coarseness and disrespect. Be proud, GOP.

Here is how New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Friend of Mitt, treats people. Specifically, a reporter at a press conference:

(CNN) – Reporters were told the governor would only answer questions about a major problem at a water treatment plant, according to the Newark Star-Ledger.

Yet one reporter proceeded to ask an unrelated question involving the state legislature, as seen in video of the press conference from Monmouth County.

Christie, cutting him off, said: "Did I say on topic? Are you stupid? On topic, on topic. Next question."

Then the reporter tried again, so Christie said this, then walked away from the press conference:

"Thank you all very much, and I'm sorry for the idiot over there. Take care."

If a reporter is persistent, or even impolite, this is the way to handle it:

Imagine what the "librul media" and the GOP would say if President Obama, or even if a 2008 Candidate Obama, had said anything remotely similar to what Christie said. Imagine the 24/7 news cycle outrage.

Know how GOP presidential [sic] candidate Willard Romney feels about Christie's blatant rudeness? Here's what he said about it at a Tuesday fundraiser:

"That man really is something, you know that? I was hoping someone in here would start to heckle him so I could watch him go to town here. But you know better, don't ya? What an extraordinary leader."

So to Romney, an "extraordinary leader" is someone who insults people who challenge him, without ever answering the actual questions of course.

Had Candidate Obama encouraged such behavior from a possible running mate, we'd see a super PAC smear campaign air within hours. And should President Obama ever say the same thing about a vulgar surrogate, there would be calls for his impeachment.

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PhotOH! Appalling Facebook page features vile images including one mocking special needs child, Pres. Obama

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I have no words. None. I'm sickened. What is happening to this country? Between this and the truly vile tweets I've gotten lately, I'm stunned at the slime that is oozing from the darkest places social media sites have to offer.

Link to photo.

Link to Facebook page. Please report it.

Hey Mitt, these are your supporters. Be proud.

H/t: @Bluesaloon

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AUDIO- Rep. Broun: Mixed "Kissy-Kissy" Seating At SOTU "A Trap" To "Silence Republicans"

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Civility Season is over. That lasted, what, about a week?

Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) is the very personification of human [sic] suckitude, and he proves it in the above audio. (Click on each word to link to more frequent bouts of incivility.)

Via Media Matters' Political Correction:

They don't want civility. They want silence from the Republicans. And the sitting together being kissy-kissy is just another way to try to silence Republicans, and also to show — to keep the American people from seeing how few of them there are in the U.S. House now. Then when people stand up to — what the Democrats are going to be doing when Barack Obama spews out all his venom, then, um, if they're scattered throughout all the Republicans, then it won't be as noticeable as if we're sitting apart.

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