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What Chuck Hagel would have to promise LGBT group if nominated for Secretary of Defense

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There have been reports galore, starting with this one from Josh Rogin, that Chuck Hagel is expected to be the president's nominee for Secretary of Defense. Or is he... ?

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However, as Rachel Maddow notes, despite his apologies, he has some work to do to prove his sincerity to the gay community. Back in 1998 he referred to a Clinton nominee as "aggressively gay." Barney Frank outright opposes the nomination.

Hagel now says he is "committed to LGBT military families." So, they're asking him to put his money where his mouth is. If he is nominated and confirmed, per my pal Chris Geidner at BuzzFeed, OutServe-SLDN's Allyson Robinson says Hagel "should immediately extend, via secretarial directive, all benefits available to married same-sex military couples and families.”

Seconded.

Here's Part Two of Rachel's two-parter about Hagel:

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VIDEO: Security Guard At Zuccotti Park Calls Gay Veteran “Faggot” at Occupy Wall Street

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My dear pal @Back2Stonewall shared this with me. Please go to his site for more, including contact information.

I'm in knots about this. I'll stop there.

UPDATE: He's been fired.

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Pentagon: Don't Ask, Don't Tell repeal ready by summer

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Whaddya wanna bet the world doesn't come to an end, the military somehow survives the Big Change, and no straight members will magically turn gay (nor will any gay members magically turn straight):

WASHINGTON (CNN) - The military expects to be ready to implement the repeal of the controversial "don't ask, don't tell" policy by midsummer, a top Pentagon official said Friday. [...]

President Barack Obama, Defense Secretary Robert Gates, and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Adm. Mike Mullen will ultimately need to certify that the Defense Department is ready for a repeal of the policy. At that point, a 60-day countdown would begin before the repeal was officially implemented.

It's hard to believe that, in 2011, this is still an issue.

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Survey: 70% of military okay with gays serving openly

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We've had so many leaks about this report, it's not news any more.

But anyway:

The survey, due out Tuesday, is expected to find pockets of resistance among combat troops to ending the ban on gays. But some 70 percent of respondents were expected to say that lifting the ban would have a positive or mixed effect, or none at all, according to officials familiar with the findings. [...]

Much of the debate is likely to hinge on the results of the Pentagon study, with many senators saying they wanted to see whether troops would support such a change before voting for repeal. Still, it's far from clear whether the bill would even advance to a floor debate with Democrats and Republicans disagreeing on procedural grounds.

Just end Don't, Ask Don't Tell and get acquainted with the 21st century already. Good grief.

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Half of military focus group said they'd "served with a gay person"

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By GottaLaff


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The beginning of the end of Don't Ask Don't Tell may be upon us, finally. However, there is a lot to contend with.

About 350 troops took part in focus groups where they expressed concerns and asked military leaders questions,:

Attendees of the Tuesday session said that one female Marine stated that bunking with a lesbian would be the same as being told to share a room with a man. A soldier said he didn't want to wade into the political debate and that he would follow orders.

Another service member asked if a gay service member who gets married — now forbidden under law — would receive military family benefits.

At one point, a moderator asked how many troops believed they have served with a gay person. About half the people in the audience raised their hands.

And look at that. They didn't turn gay, they managed to survive, and even participated in a focus group.

What next? Acceptance? Unheard of!

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"500,000 or more homosexual men in uniform" during WWII

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By GottaLaff

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Via the L.A. Times letters to the editor:


A veteran's viewpoint

Re “Not quite ready to end ‘don’t ask,’ ” Feb. 24

Perhaps Times readers would like an opinion on the matter of gays in the military from a Navy veteran of World War II.

Looking at the numbers, we must have had 500,000 or more homosexual men in uniform during the war.

I served as an officer aboard two troop transports, each with a crew of about 600 men, and as a senior officer on a floating dry dock with some 500 enlisted men. Everyone showered together and slept in three-tier bunks, 40 or so to a room.

Sodomy was a crime under all military codes, but never did any of us hear of a homosexual incident or a complaint from any enlisted man. I'm sure that there were a few prosecutions, but any such cases were negligible in number.

The current rules are unnecessary and wasteful of talent.

This is the same point I've made in previous posts. Why does anyone assume that gays in the military have some strange uncontrollable lusty urge that they must and will act upon... and straights don't? Why are they more of a threat?

They don't.

They aren't.

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Americans Back Repeal of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

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This poll might explain why Lt Choi is back with the National Guard? Via Taegan-

A new Quinnipiac poll finds that Americans by a 57% to 36% margin think homosexuals should be able to openly serve in the U.S. military.

Voters also say by a 66% to 31% margin that the current policy of not allowing openly gay men and women to serve is discrimination.

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