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Video- Fox’s Earhardt Complains We’ve “Bent Over Backwards To Be Tolerant Of Minority Groups” But Aren’t “Tolerant Of Individual Beliefs”

Aww, the poor thing!!! I’m sure it’s been awful being a lovely white woman in this society!! It’s not like the Christian holidays aren’t on every calendar produced. Via.

“What the state of Virginia is trying to enact, is really a form of rape”: Special Comment by my 72-year-old friend

via Peter Daou

My impassioned 72-year-old (Now 74, but who’s counting?) friend, who goes by the Twitter name @42bkdodgr, would like to share his feelings about the separation of church and state and more. I am more than happy to oblige.

But first, a personal note from 42bkdodgr:

Many of you may wonder why I chose to use the “ 72 year old friend” as the introduction to my Special Comments. I selected the moniker so readers could see that from my age and life experiences I give a different perspective to the issues of today.

Now for his Special Comment:

Religion and the Separation of Church and State

One of the statements, I’m sure we all have heard the expression in our lifetime is “never discuss politics or religion with family or friends”. Although most of my life I tried to avoid those type of discussions, but when they did happen they were usually very heated.

The most heated discussions occurring in the country these days is religion’s place in the state and federal government. I truly believe the founders of our country understood this, and it’s why they established the policy of the separation of church and state.

Look at the bill  Sen. Blunt is proposing, where any medical individual or medical facility can deny medical treatment to an individual, based on their MORAL and RELIGIOUS beliefs.

Can you imagine the uproar from the public, and especially from the right, if a religious Muslim or Jewish doctor denied emergency medical service or treatment to a person, because they knew the patient ate pork?

I know this is an extreme example, but it shows how ridiculous Sen. Blunt’s proposed bill is.

Look what is happening in Virginia, where a proposed state law would require a woman, without her permission, to have a trans-vaginal ultrasound  done before a woman could have her constitutional right to an abortion.  If any non-medical person tried to place an object in a woman’s vagina against her will, that person would  be arrested and sent to prison.

To me, what the state of Virginia is trying to enact, is really a form of rape. The government of the state is saying to all women, whether they are Catholic, Jewish, Muslim, or of any other religious or non-religious belief, you have no control  over your body.

Then you have various states trying to pass bills that life begins at conception. Such proposed bills have been defeated by voters in a few states, but other states are still trying to enact such a law.

What those states legislatures are saying if such a law is passed, that at conception, a human being is living within a woman’s body.

Suppose a woman is involved in a traffic accident with a truck that is owned by a major corporation. Upon hospital treatment, following the accident, the woman learns for the first time that she is pregnant. Can the driver and corporation be tried for murder? Since the SCOTUS has defined a corporation as a person, I don’t see why not. Does that mean the chairman of the corporation has to serve prison time?

These are the type of questions, among many others, as ridiculous as they sound, that come to my mind when I see states pushing for laws that life begins at conception.

The basic foundation of all these proposed laws or rules are based on the religious values of those proposing and supporting them in the state and federal government.  So I go back to my original belief, don’t mix politics and religion.

The Republican Party is trying to make the 2012 election about a vote on the religious values of Americans,  because they have nothing else to offer.

So it’s very important that President Obama be re-elected, and that he have a Democratic Congress. This election is a fight not only for women and gay rights, but also to make sure that the separation of church and state is not eliminated.

Many thanks again for another thorough, relevant piece, 42bkdodgr. You often say what many of us are thinking and feeling, and we thank you for your unique perspective.

Thanks to Terry Jones burning the Quran, there is deadly chaos in Afghanistan

“Loonbucket” (a term of not-endearment by his own daughter) Terry Jones has done something immensely stupid. He went ahead with plans to burn (“execute”) the Quran in order to “stop Islam,” and as a result, violence has broken out in Afghanistan.

So there you have it, he’s accomplished his goals. Angering a people to the point of deadly violence, ending lives, those were the fruits of his grand little gesture. Be proud, Pastor Lunatic. You’ve just endangered more lives, including American ones.

Gen. David Petraeus and Defense Secretary Robert Gates both warned him against doing this. Via Think Progress:

Fifteen people were killed this morning in Kabul, including ten United Nations workers, when residents enraged at Jones’ act stormed a U.N. office:

Protesters angered by the burning of a Koran by a fringe American pastor in Florida mobbed offices of the United Nations in northern Afghanistan on Friday, killing ten foreign staff members and beheading two of the victims, according to an Afghan police spokesman. Five Afghans were also killed.

The attack began when hundreds of demonstrators, some of them armed, poured out of mosques after Friday Prayer and headed to the headquarters of the United Nations in the northern city of Mazar-i-Sharif.

One Afghan official said “several hundred demonstrators were peacefully protesting the purported burning when the gathering suddenly turned violent.” This unfortunate but predictable violence is exactly what Petraeus, Gates, and others warned about.

As Think Progress notes, several on the far right bashed Petraeus for daring to issue those warnings.

Of course, it is highly unlikely the media will mention that little fact. It’s much too relevant.

UPDATE:

Eight workers for the U.N. and four Afghans were killed, said Abdul Rauof Taj, security director of Bulkh province. At least 24 people were injured, he said.

Federal judge keeps Sharia law restriction out of Oklahoma Constitution

Another wacky, crazy “activist” judge does the right thing:

An Oklahoma City federal judge Monday ruled against a voter- approved restriction on Islamic law.

In a 15-page order, U.S. District Judge Vicki Miles-LaGrange continued to keep the restriction out of the Oklahoma Constitution. Her ruling was a victory for an Oklahoma City Muslim leader who had complained his constitutional religious rights were in jeopardy. [...]

The judge wrote: “This order addresses issues that go to the very foundation of our country, our (U.S.) Constitution, and particularly, the Bill of Rights. Throughout the course of our country’s history, the will of the ’majority’ has on occasion conflicted with the constitutional rights of individuals, an occurrence which our founders foresaw and provided for through the Bill of Rights.”

Quoting from a 1943 U.S. Supreme Court decision, she wrote, “One’s right to life, liberty, and property, to free speech, a free press, freedom of worship and assembly, and other fundamental rights may not be submitted to vote; they depend on the outcome of no elections.”

U.S. Evangelical Air Force

Our friends at Truthout always have a zillion good posts, but this one by Mike Ludwig caught my eye, in a disturbing, WTF kind of way:

Results of the so-called “Climate Study” leaked to the press, and “353 cadets (almost 1 out of every 5 survey participants) reported having been subjected to unwanted religious proselytizing, and 23 cadets (13 of them Christians) reported living ‘in fear of their physical safety’ because of their religious beliefs,” according to the MRFF.

See what I mean by disturbing?

Mikey Weinstein, a USAFA graduate and MRFF founder, told Truthout that USAFA Superintendent Lt. Gen. Mike Gould was dishonest about the results of the Climate Study, and told the public that everything was fine at the academy without releasing the actual results. He said it’s time for a legitimate investigation of the “fundamentalist culture” in the academy.

Nothing like a little daily Bible bullying. It’s not like one’s god on his/her own wouldn’t be intimidating enough, but apparently the Christian Cadets thinks he/she needs a little push.

How American of them to force their religion down their fellow cadets’ throats. If that’s their idea of joining the military to protect freedoms, they have a pretty perverted idea of what the word “freedoms” means.

An e-mail via an anonymous cadet, in part:

I keep ‘Christian’ books and ‘Christian’ CD’s in my room so others will be fooled and leave me alone and not suspect that I’m not actually with the USAFA ‘Christianity is the Only Way’ program here, even though I consider myself to be a Christian.”

Don’t pray, don’t tell.

Our daughter was methodically brain washed into believing that she was unsaved in the Catholic religion,” the anonymous parents wrote in an email to the MRFF. “During spring break 2009, she urgently asked that we read the Bible everyday in order to ‘receive the grace of God and be saved.’ This manner of speech took us completely off guard.

Get down and give me 10 Lord Is My Shepherds!

And then pray something can be done about this.

Why You Should Vote: Special Comment by my 72-year-old friend

My impassioned 72-year-old Twitter pal, who goes by the name 42bkdodgr, would like to share his feelings about why it’s so important for Democrats to vote in November, despite your frustration with the candidates and Congress itself. I am more than happy to oblige, especially because I was one of the people who reminded 42bkdodgr that giving up is not an option when he first expressed his discouragement.

Walking away from fights as important as the ones before us is unacceptable. Throwing up our hands in disgust won’t change the status quo. Allowing the Tea Bagger loons and GOP obstructionists to take over and return to the ways of BushCo is not an option. I’m relieved to see my dear friend has come around. With that, here are his thoughts.

But first, a personal note from 42bkdodgr:

Many of you may wonder why I chose to use the “ 72 year old friend” as the introduction to my Special Comments. I selected the moniker so readers could see that from my age and life experiences I give a different perspective to the issues of today.

Now for his Special Comment:

 

Why You Should Vote

During the last several weeks we have heard from the Main Stream Media about the lack of enthusiasm among Moderates and Progressives about voting in the November mid-term elections.

Many Moderates and Progressives are disappointed that the passage of the Health Care Reform and Financial Reform bills didn’t go far enough, while others believe that Obama hasn’t followed through on several of his 2008 campaign promises.

I must admit, I was beginning to have the same lack of enthusiasm for the November election after I recently read that the Democrats were shying away from passing, or possibly delaying, a vote on a bill that would end the Bush’s tax cuts for the rich.

After giving a lot of thought about the issue of voting, I came to the conclusion that there was a very important reason why I and others  should vote in November, no matter how one felt about the outcome of the Reform Bills or that Obama’s hasn’t followed through.

One of our country’s basic principles, one that is incorporated in the U.S. Constitution, has been under attack for some time by the Christian Conservatives (Religious Right); that being the First Amendment.

The First Amendment reads in part “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise there of”. The amendment language, clearly established the principle of the “separation of church and state”.

I have been concerned about this issue for sometime after seeing the results of this years primaries, remarks made during Glenn Beck’s 8/28 rally, and at the Values Voters Summit this past weekend.

Here are some of the views on that have been expressed by the Far Right on this issue over the years:

* Sharron Angle believes “the tenant of the separation of church and state is an unconstitutional doctrine“ (1995).

* Sarah Palin stated on April 9, 2010 “Lest anyone try to convince you that God should be separated from the state, our founding fathers, they were believers, and George Washington, he saw faith in God as basic to life”.

* Christine O’Donnell in August 1998 -“We took the bible and prayer out of public schools now we are having weekly shootings practically”.

* Michele Bachmann, in May 2010, introduced an  amendment to the 2011 National Defense Authorization Act that would allow chaplains to close a prayer at a non-religious event“, according to the dictates of the chaplains’ conscience. 

* At the Glenn Beck rally, one of the speakers was David Barton, a Texas Religious Right activist who is also a Professor at Beck University, who over the years has insisted that church-state separation is a myth.

So I ask those of you who are thinking about not voting in November, please consider what may happen on the issue of  the separation of church and state should Sharron Angle, Christine O’Donnell, Michele Bachmann, Rand Paul and others with similar viewpoints get elected.

Their election wouldl only increase the pressure on breaking down the wall between church and state and it will encourage those with similar view points to run in 2012.

So I ask, all of you who were considering not voting in November, to reconsider if you want to preserve a basic principle of our Constitution, because religion has no place in government.

Many thanks again for another thorough, relevant piece, 42bkdodgr. You often say what many of us are thinking and feeling, and we thank you for your unique perspective.

“So why are we even talking about religion? Because some right-wing nuts are swiftboating Obama”

Note to readers: Forgive me if I’m not as prolific or commenty as usual today. I am coming down with something and can barely think. Today will be a “short and sweet” day if things don’t improve.

That said, here’s part of a letter to 2TheAdvocate that is a must-read:

For the sake of argument, let’s say Obama is a Muslim. So what? [...]

So why are we even talking about religion? Because some right-wing nuts are swiftboating Obama with ultimate lies about religion and birthplace. [...]

Until recently, I was independent. Now I’m a Democrat because of these sleazy, Rove-like tactics and hate-filled extremism. The Democrats have legislated well in spite of bald-faced obstructionism cloaked in a phony flag of patriotism.

But let’s face it, Democrats are lousy at “messaging.”

See that last sentence? Been saying that all week.

H/t: Dovescorner