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Thomas Jefferson Supported Government Run Health Care

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Now back to our blog post already in progress:

Thomas Jefferson

The other day, I posted a link to the splendid piece by Rick Ungar titled "Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance… In 1798".  He got right in the smug little faces of the GOP about the Founding Fathers and health care, including this:

In July of 1798, Congress passed – and President John Adams signed - “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of a government operated marine hospital service and mandated that privately employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance. [...]

The moral to the story is that the political right-wing has to stop pretending they have the blessings of the Founding Fathers as their excuse to oppose whatever this president has to offer.

History makes it abundantly clear that they do not.

Was it good for you? Well, it gets even better:

According to Georgetown University history professor and noted historian of America’s early days, Adam Rothman, Thomas Jefferson –the iconic hero of the Tea Party – also supported the legislation. [...]

But, at the least, can we not agree that the mounting evidence as to how men like Jefferson and Adams perceived the issue should bar the attempt to pin the objections to health care reform on the backs of the nation’s founders? While it may be an effective device to win over the support of a certain segment of American society, throwing the nation’s founders into the stew is really just one more disingenuous and cynical attempt to mislead the debate away from the real issues.

It doesn't matter. The delusional say whatever they want, whenever they want, because it hits the spot with fellow tea party supporters. The lies shall flow endlessly, the false equivalencies will be spewed ad nauseam, the dearth of logic and reason will be embraced and paraded like Palin's youngest human prop, and the conservatives' default political crutch-- aka the Founding Fathers-- will continue to be showcased and exploited without an ounce of embarrassment.

Please read the whole thing here.

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Congress Passes Socialized Medicine and Mandates Health Insurance... In 1798

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How many times have we suppressed our gag reflexes listening to conservatives exploit the Founding Fathers during any given self-serving fili-bluster about whatever the fake Bill du Jour happens to be.

They pop up in front of every TV camera they can sniff out and swear their allegiance to Founding Father A, B, and/or C, strutting around in three cornered hats, wrapped in American flags, and even singing embarrassing songs about Sarah Palin to the melody of "Battle Hymn of the Republic".

Won't their faces be red when they read the following super duper piece by Rick Ungar that JoeWo linked me to:

In July of 1798, Congress passed – and President John Adams signed - “An Act for the Relief of Sick and Disabled Seamen.” The law authorized the creation of a government operated marine hospital service and mandated that privately employed sailors be required to purchase health care insurance.

Keep in mind that the 5th Congress did not really need to struggle over the intentions of the drafters of the Constitutions in creating this Act as many of its members were the drafters of the Constitution.

And when the Bill came to the desk of President John Adams for signature, I think it’s safe to assume that the man in that chair had a pretty good grasp on what the framers had in mind. [...]

Clearly,  the nation’s founders serving in the 5th Congress, and there were many of them, believed that mandated health insurance coverage was permitted within the limits established by our Constitution.

The moral to the story is that the political right-wing has to stop pretending they have the blessings of the Founding Fathers as their excuse to oppose whatever this president has to offer.

History makes it abundantly clear that they do not.

Isn't that a riot, GOP?

Now go sit in a corner somewhere quiet and read a history book.

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Dear Sarah Palin: "The Founders were the educated and intellectual elite of their day."

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I can't find the L.A. Times Calendar letters on their site, so I have no direct link to this:

One more time we learn [from Palin's new book] that we are to celebrate American's Founding Fathers and to demonize intellectual and academic elites.

But the Founders were the educated and intellectual elite of their day. That is why they were able to extablish the governmental structure by which we still live.

Dummies, after all, don't do Declarations of Independence and enduring Constitutions.

I am a proud edjumucated intellectual liberal elitist.

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