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Here it is: The article every liberal needs to show a conservative

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How many times have you been in a conversation with a conservative on Twitter, Facebook, face-to-face, on the phone, or just standing in line somewhere, and you blank on an easy to understand, informative comeback? Need a handy dandy guide that sums it all up beautifully? Why, here’s one now!

Here are a few excerpts from a substantive post that includes gun rights, marriage equality, “Christian values,” fiscal responsibility, “small” government, abortion, the debt ceiling, spending, and tax cuts. Thank you, Forward Progressives:

Marriage is a Sacred Bond Before God: [...]

[I]f you feel your religion should control all others, and all Americans, you then support a theocracy and apparently oppose the United States and our Constitutionally protected freedoms. [...]

I Want Big Intrusive Government–That Never Does Anything Good–Out of My Life!

Did you drive today?  Did you take your children to public school?  Did you enjoy a safe commute as you traveled thanks to traffic signals and signs?  Did you whisk through your city or state on an Interstate Highway?  Did you enjoy running water and plumbing that properly, and safely, disposes of waste?  Did you get a college degree at a public university because it was much cheaper than a private one?

Hey genius, that’s all government.

Republicans: The Party for Christian Values: [...]

If you want to say you’re the party of “Christian values” and you worship Jesus Christ…

Start by helping the sick, the poor, the needy—not opposing programs that do. [...]

Republicans are the Party of Small Government

Big government regulations, they’re un-American!  They’re unconstitutional and ruining your way of life!

Unless that big government regulates:

  • What language to speak

  • Religion to follow

  • When life is created

  • Who can marry

  • Who can serve in the military

  • Invasive health procedures on women

  • That we have prayer in school

  • Mosques aren’t built in certain locations

  • Corporations are people

  • The Patriot Act

  • Unions don’t have rights

  • When alcohol can be sold

  • The requirement of an ID to vote

Those were but a few of the responses that Forward Progressives provided. Please follow the link for more.

The post was written by Allen Clifton who has a degree in Political Science. He is the founder of the popular Facebook page “Right Off A Cliff,” on which he routinely voices his opinions and stirs the pot for the Progressive movement. His work has been featured on many sites online, and on Current TV’s popular “The Young Turks” program.

When It Comes to Killing in the Name of Religion and Nationhood, Christians Hold the Modern Record

 Via Juan Cole

Via Juan Cole

Via Tim Wise’s Terrorism and Privilege: Understanding the Power of Whiteness:

White privilege is knowing that if the bomber turns out to be white, he or she will be viewed as an exception to an otherwise non-white rule, an aberration, an anomaly, and that he or she will be able to join the ranks of pantheon of white people who engage in (or have plotted) politically motivated violence meant to terrorize — and specifically to kill — but whose actions result in the assumption of absolutely nothing about white people generally, or white Christians in particular.

Among these: Tim McVeigh and Terry Nichols and Ted Kaczynski and Eric Rudolph and Joe Stack and George Metesky and Byron De La Beckwith and Bobby Frank Cherry and Thomas Blanton and Herman Frank Cash and Robert Chambliss and James von Brunn and Lawrence Michael Lombardi and Robert Mathews and David Lane and Chevie Kehoe and Michael F. Griffin and Paul Hill and John Salvi and Justin Carl Moose and Bruce and Joshua Turnidge and James Kopp and Luke Helder and James David Adkisson and Scott Roeder and Shelley Shannon and Dennis Mahon and Wade Michael Page and Jeffery Harbin and Byron Williams and Charles Ray Polk and Willie Ray Lampley and Cecilia Lampley and John Dare Baird and Joseph Martin Bailie and Ray Hamblin and Robert Edward Starr III and William James McCranie Jr. and John Pitner and Charles Barbee and Robert Berry and Jay Merrell and Brendon Blasz and Carl Jay Waskom Jr. and Shawn and Catherine Adams and Edward Taylor Jr. and Todd Vanbiber and William Robert Goehler and James Cleaver and Jack Dowell and Bradley Playford Glover and Ken Carter and Randy Graham and Bradford Metcalf and Chris Scott Gilliam and Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder and Buford Furrow and Benjamin Smith and Donald Rudolph and Kevin Ray Patterson and Charles Dennis Kiles and Donald Beauregard and Troy Diver and Mark Wayne McCool and Leo Felton and Erica Chase and Clayton Lee Wagner and Michael Edward Smith and David Burgert and Robert Barefoot Jr. and Sean Gillespie and Ivan Duane Braden and Kevin Harpham and William Krar and Judith Bruey and Edward Feltus and Raymond Kirk Dillard and Adam Lynn Cunningham and Bonnell Hughes and Randall Garrett Cole and James Ray McElroy and Michael Gorbey and Daniel Cowart and Paul Schlesselman and Frederick Thomas and Paul Ross Evans and Matt Goldsby and Jimmy Simmons and Kathy Simmons and Kaye Wiggins and Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe and David McMenemy and Bobby Joe Rogers and Francis Grady and Cody Seth Crawford and Ralph Lang and Demetrius Van Crocker and Floyd Raymond Looker and Derek Mathew Shrout and Randolph Linn.

Ya know, just to name a few.

And now your Daily Dose of BuzzFlash at Truthout, via my pal Mark Karlin:

[T]he insightful Juan Cole puts into perspective that most followers of Islam are peaceful people.  The Jihadists and their networks compose a small percentage of believers in the Islamic faith. [...]

Many Americans will react with dismay that Cole is setting the record straight.  But it is vital to point out that he condemns terrorism and war for empire of any sort.  He is simply pointing out that to think that Christianity and Christian nations are more virtuous and less blood thirsty than followers of Islam is statistically incorrect.  As Cole concludes…

Terrorism is a tactic of extremists within each religion, and within secular religions of Marxism or nationalism. No religion, including Islam, preaches indiscriminate violence against innocents.

It takes a peculiar sort of blindness to see Christians of European heritage as “nice” and Muslims and inherently violent, given the twentieth century death toll I mentioned above. [...]

Nothing can further exemplify the deep roots of a Christian need to force others to accept Jesus Christ as saviors than the gory, bloody rampage of the Crusades, which over years left countless “infidels” slain.  Or one can look at the inquisition where non-believers in Christ were tortured and executed. [...]

No, there are no excuses or sympathy to be expressed for the Tsarnaev brothers… Public acts of terrorism are gruesome, terrifying and heart-wrenching; but so are many acts of war in the name of nationhood, ethnic identity, religion — often all of these together.

But rather than proceed on another post 9/11 government and FOX/Limbaugh decade of Islamophobia, we need to look into our own religious and national identities to find pathways toward peace with all religions. [...]

[W]e must also look inside ourselves and recognize that killing under the flag of any religion, nation or tribal identity is abhorrent  – whether it be the Tsarnaev brothers or wars for religion, tribal identity (including nationhood) or empire.

Please read the entire post here.

The pastor who “promotes a generation of stupidity, all for the glory of his ego”

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Please welcome back guest blogger and all-around cool person, K.C. Boyd. You might remember her from an earlier post, So which is it, GOP? Open contempt for marriage equality or “outreach”? “Inquiring upchuckers want to know.”

Daily Upchuck

Warning: Due to the seriousness of this post, there will be no mini-pukes today.

John Hagee, the pasty, corpulent human dinosaur that he is, has entered the amusement-church fray.  Not content to peddle the coming End Times glory over the Christian airwaves and in church on Sundays, the Cornerstone mega-pastor decided to further his market on dumbing down San Antonio’s youth.

Tiptoeing in the footsteps of the smarmy Ken Hamm, whose $27 million Northern Kentucky Creation Idiocracy “Museum” far overshadows Cornerstone’s hovel of a $5 million Noah’s Ark Children’s Building , they both spew the same errantly biblical pablum, Hagee ‘s ark opened last week to an astonishing 28,000 visitors.

In and of itself, it is unsurprising that so many people lined up for this piece of biblical theater when, after all, the latest Gallup Poll showed that 46% of Americans today believe in Creationism. (GRAND UPCHUCK) What astonishes and disturbs is that the Scopes trial did so little to eliminate the mythical thinking and teaching that continues to delude yet another generation of children nearly ninety years later. Of the ark, Matthew Hagee, the heir-in-waiting to his father’s multi-million dollar empire said, “There is no greater investment that can be made than that of building a foundation in the life of a child that will keep them the rest of their days,” Foundation, exclaims this upchucker! A foundation guaranteed to leave unsuspecting children far behind their science-believing peers, peers who have already left them so far behind in the dust that they can never hope to catch up – that kind of foundation?

Therein lies the heartbreak. It is one thing for an adult to choose religious belief over science but it is another entirely for a pastor to actively promote a generation of stupidity, all for the glory of his ego. For that is exactly what’s on show here – - an oversized, manipulative man, prideful enough to hawk his particular faith over science, intellect and knowledge and to do so to the lifelong detriment of his followers. Faith may have its place in society – that’s a topic for another day – but it has no right to compromise the future of that society’s children. 

Hamm, Hagee and the rest of the creationist charlatans must prove to their audiences that Genesis took place exactly as is written for if not, the rest of the Bible falls apart. Without Genesis as Truth, Hagee is left with parables and lessons of morality and then the whole thing, including his End Times ecstasies fall apart. No, far better than that, he chooses to delude and promise, to lie and to cheat, to steal and to rob an entire generation and beyond.

Not very Christian of him, I’d say.

Novelist K.C. Boyd is the author of Being Christian: A Novel. According to Mikey Weinstein, President of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, “Boyd created a story so riveting that not only could I not put it down, but upon finishing it, I found myself, like an addict, craving more.

VIDEO: Pat Robertson thinks I “want you to be miserable.”

This from Pat Robertson, the man who censored the words “toilet paper” in one of the hundreds of squeaky clean jokes I wrote for a space alien character for his squeaky clean Family Channel:

“It’s, well, Christmas all over again. The Grinch is trying to steal our holiday. It’s been so beautiful, the nation comes together, we sing Christmas carols, we give gifts to each other, we have lighted trees, and it’s just a beautiful thing. Atheists don’t like our happiness, they don’t want you to be happy, they want you to be miserable. They’re miserable, so they want you to be miserable. So they want to steal your holiday away from you.”

Funny thing about that, Pat. I’m an atheist who loves to celebrate the holidays any number of ways, including Christmas trees, pie, chestnuts roasting on an open fire, Jack Frost nipping at my nose, those yummy cookies covered in powdered sugar, plenty of wine, piping hot cider, matzo ball soup, and holiday love for all! Go figger.

Nor am I miserable in the least or wish misery on anyone else (well, maybe a select few who cause others harm). As for “stealing” anyone’s holiday, I’m not sure how that’s even possible. In fact, I’ve always shared holidays, having been brought up Jewish and somehow still enjoy diversely decorating our house with Chanukah dreidels, twinkly lights, fragrant firs and wreaths, snowmen, and Stars of David galore.

If anyone has had holidays “stolen” from them, it is those who fall into the growing category of America’s religious minorities, those who are discriminated against and/or hated for believing something different from the Christian majority, those who don’t believe at all (and currently have a snowball’s chance in hell of ever becoming a U.S. president), or those who would like to be permitted to have their own public religious displays instead of being excluded in favor of endless Nativity scenes, tree lightings, and Santas. Or people like President Obama who are told they are not Christian at all, but Muslim, as if that’s bad thing.

But this isn’t a war, and Christmas is alive and well and warm and lovely and sparkly. And a little too commercial, but hey…

Or maybe non-inclusive Pat the Grinch with all his “Christian values” was projecting. After all, his words don’t sound very joyous to the world or do-unto-othersy, do they?

Evangelical leaders agree with President Obama, say U.S. is not a Christian nation

Via Sodahead

You know how Christian conservatives have been all over President Obama for saying this back in 2006?

“Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation – at least, not just. We are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, and a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.”

Yes, they were all frothy and pitchforky because the president “threatened” their idea of the United States of Christians by acknowledging our diversity. Or as I like to call it, the truth.

You know who else calls it the truth? Evangelical Christian leaders.

Heads exploding in 5…4…3…2…

Via the L.A. Times:

In a statement issued Tuesday, the National Assn. of Evangelicals said that when it surveyed selected evangelical leaders about whether the United States was a Christian nation, 68% said no.

Much of the world refers to America as a Christian nation, but most of our Christian leaders don’t think so,” said Leith Anderson, the association’s president. “The Bible only uses the word ‘Christian’ to describe people and not countries. Even those who say America is a Christian nation admit that there are lots of non-Christians and even anti-Christian beliefs and behaviors.”

The association said that some respondents to its June survey said, in essence, that “perhaps the United States was a Christian nation, but it is no longer.” Others rejected the idea of that a nation can be “Christian” altogether.

“Did the Christian God become homophobic around the year 1250?”

Today’s L.A. Times letter to the editor, because our voices matter:

Re “The next worst thing,” Opinion, July 26

Michael Kinsley stated that gay marriage “seemed at first to be a bizarre idea” but “has become utterly conventional.” Christian gay marriage was “utterly conventional” in pre-modern Europe.

The Times’ 1994 review of the late Yale history professor John Boswell’s book, “Same-sex Unions in Pre-modern Europe,” called it “striking … profound and exciting.”

On the book’s back cover, just under a quote from that review, it states, “One of our most respected authorities on the Middle Ages produces extensive evidence that at one time the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches not only sanctioned unions between partners of the same sex but sanctified them — in ceremonies that bear striking resemblance to heterosexual marriage ceremonies.”

Boswell shows that for the first 1,200 years of their religion, few Christians thought gay marriage to be a “bizarre idea.” Did the Christian God become homophobic around the year 1250?

Robert W. Holdenvenzon

San Diego

Video- John Fugelsang: Why do fundamentalist Christians support the Loch Ness Monster?

A story I forgot to post about yesterday, but John takes care of it for me. Via.